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WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Re: WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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roysting wrote: post #106
dgxyz wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saw this one coming and got my personal stuff out. It's running on an old Lenovo crate chucked in my hallway. Work is fucked. 23TB of RAM online. Microservices FTW. Not. Each node has OS overhead. Each pod has language VM overhead. And the architecture can only cost more over time. On top of that "storage is cheap so we won't bother to delete anything". Stupid mentality across the board.

It is one tiny sliver of silver lining that “storage/memory/compute is cheap” nonsense that has produced all kinds of outsourced human slop code. That mentality is clearly going to have to die. It could even become a kind of renaissance of efficient code… if there is any need for code at all. The five guys left online might even get efficient and fast loading websites. Honorable mention of the NO-TECH and LOW-TECH ma…

I think your ideological perspective is spot on.

We went from using technology to solve problems to the diametric opposite of creating new problems to solve with technology. The latter will have to contract considerably. As you say, many problems can be solved without code. If they even need to be solved in the first place.

On the efficiency front, most of what we built is for developer efficiency rather than runtime efficiency. Also needs to stop.

I'm a big fan of low tech. I still write notes on paper and use a film camera. Thanks for the link - right up my street!

Re: WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Post by dgxyz »

lazide wrote: post #109
dgxyz wrote: post #103

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It's not really isolation but exclusion. Push all risks as far away from you as possible.

When everything ‘outside’ is a risk, what would you call a summary of that policy?

Well a risk has an abstract level and is either increasing or decreasing. You can look at your risk profile over time and work out how to define policy going forwards. It takes a long time to make changes at country level.

US is medium risk and increasing rapidly. Run away quickly.

Re: WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Post by nubg »

bayindirh wrote: post #54
hakanderyal wrote: post #43

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It has Claude all over it. When you spend enough time with them it becomes obvious. In this case “it’s not x, it’s y” pattern and its placement is a dead giveaway.

Isn't this ironic to use AI to formulate a comment against AI vendors and hyperscalers. It's not ironic, but bitterly funny, if you ask me. Note: I'm not an AI, I'm an actual human without a Claude account.

Yes I found this ironic as well lmao.

I do agree with the sentiment of the AI comment, and was even weighting just letting it slide because I do fear the future tht comment was warning against.

Re: WD and Seagate confirm: Hard drives sold out for 2026

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Post by greatgib »

cubefox wrote: post #74

I'm confused, that doesn't make sense to me: > They largely come from hyperscalers who want hard drives for their AI data centers, for example to store training data on them. What type of training data? LLMs need relatively little of that. For example, DeepSeek-V3 [1], still a relatively large model: > We pre-train DeepSeek-V3 on 14.8 trillion diverse and high-quality tokens At 2 bytes per token, that's 29.6 terabyte…

Honestly looks highly suspicious to me. Because ok they might need some big storage like petabits. But how can this be a match in proportion with the capacity that is currently usually needed for everything that is hard drive hungry. Any cloud service, any storage service, all the storage needed for private photo/video/media storage for everything that is produced everyday, for all consumer hardwares like computers...

Gpu I understand but hard drive looks excessive. It's like if tomorrow there is a shortage of computer cabling because ai datacenter needs some.

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Post by zozbot234 »

greatgib wrote: post #114
cubefox wrote: post #74

I'm confused, that doesn't make sense to me: > They largely come from hyperscalers who want hard drives for their AI data centers, for example to store training data on them. What type of training data? LLMs need relatively little of that. For example, DeepSeek-V3 [1], still a relatively large model: > We pre-train DeepSeek-V3 on 14.8 trillion diverse and high-quality tokens At 2 bytes per token, that's 29.6 terabyte…

Honestly looks highly suspicious to me. Because ok they might need some big storage like petabits. But how can this be a match in proportion with the capacity that is currently usually needed for everything that is hard drive hungry. Any cloud service, any storage service, all the storage needed for private photo/video/media storage for everything that is produced everyday, for all consumer hardwares like computers..…

If you're building for future training needs and not just present, it makes more sense. Scaling laws say the more data you have, the smarter and more knowledgeable your AI model gets in the end. So that extra storage can be quite valuable.

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Post by dgxyz »

FrankBooth wrote: post #101
stingraycharles wrote: post #17

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I’m just afraid that prices of $everything will go up soon and will not come down anymore, like they did after Covid. If it’s temporary I can live with it. I guess this was inevitable with the absolute insane money being poured into AI.

We useless eaters are to be priced out of life soon enough.

Traditionally that hasn't gone well for the rich folk.

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Post by brador »

FrankBooth wrote: post #101
stingraycharles wrote: post #17

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I’m just afraid that prices of $everything will go up soon and will not come down anymore, like they did after Covid. If it’s temporary I can live with it. I guess this was inevitable with the absolute insane money being poured into AI.

We useless eaters are to be priced out of life soon enough.

Truer than even you dare to admit.

How many useless living humans do you know? They go somewhere. Something happens to them. Whatever it is it’s about to happen to 30% of the population.

What’s the opposite of survivor bias?

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Post by phatfish »

bayindirh wrote: post #54
hakanderyal wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has Claude all over it. When you spend enough time with them it becomes obvious. In this case “it’s not x, it’s y” pattern and its placement is a dead giveaway.

Isn't this ironic to use AI to formulate a comment against AI vendors and hyperscalers. It's not ironic, but bitterly funny, if you ask me. Note: I'm not an AI, I'm an actual human without a Claude account.

I wonder what the ratio is of "constructive" use of AI is, verses people writing pointless internet comments.

It seems personal computing is being screwed so people can create memes, ask questions that take 30 seconds to find the answer to with Google or Wikipedia, and sound clever on social media?

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