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Re: Vim 9.2

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Has neovim settles on a UI yet?

What do you mean? Neovim looks 100% exactly like Vim when you turn it on without any plugins. It's hard to distinguish even. It's the plugins that give it that nerdy look.

they probably mean GUI app like GVim and MacVim

Re: Vim 9.2

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> For over 30 years, Vim has been "Charityware," supporting children in Kibaale, Uganda. Following the passing of Bram Moolenaar, the ICCF Holland foundation was dissolved […] and its remaining funds were transferred to ensure continued support for the Kibaale project. […] Vim remains Charityware. We encourage users to continue supporting the needy children in Uganda through this new transition. I settled on vim for…

Do I understand it correctly, but people donating to Vim, presumably for the support of the software, have their donations passed along to a charity supporting children in Uganda?

I wanted to understand it too, so I clicked on the donate button and was greeted by this message: 'All donations are directed toward a good cause: helping children in Uganda. This charity is personally recommended by Vim’s creator. Funds are used to support a children's center in southern Uganda, providing food, education, and health care to communities affected by AIDS.'

Re: Vim 9.2

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post #35

> For over 30 years, Vim has been "Charityware," supporting children in Kibaale, Uganda. Following the passing of Bram Moolenaar, the ICCF Holland foundation was dissolved […] and its remaining funds were transferred to ensure continued support for the Kibaale project. […] Vim remains Charityware. We encourage users to continue supporting the needy children in Uganda through this new transition. I settled on vim for…

I used to work for a large enterprise, and tried to get vim ‘approved’ for internal use. I remember this charityware clause caused our legal department to get tied up in all sorts of arguments about how we could be opening ourselves to liability if we used it without donating. It was my first lesson in navigating large company processes. In the end I just kept quiet about the fact that it ships in all the Linux packa…

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Re: Vim 9.2

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post #91

But where are the AI features?? Gonna get left behind! Only joking of course, actually quite refreshing to see a new version announcement of something this major without any AI nonsense.

> But where are the AI features?? Gonna get left behind! Obviously vim doesn't need AI, but one feature I really wish vim had was native support for multiple cursors. It's the feature that lured me away to Sublime Text in the first place many years ago, and it's a pre-requisite for pretty much every editor I use these days, from VSCode to Zed. There are plugins, but multicursor is such a powerful force-multiplier tha…

I'm curious to know what kind of editing you do that you need this so much?

Re: Vim 9.2

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But where are the AI features?? Gonna get left behind! Only joking of course, actually quite refreshing to see a new version announcement of something this major without any AI nonsense.

The announcement itself looks potentially AI-assisted, judging by the bulleted list style and redundant text under the "Charity: Transition to Kuwasha" section. But maybe some people just write that way.

Re: Vim 9.2

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post #82

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Do I understand it correctly, but people donating to Vim, presumably for the support of the software, have their donations passed along to a charity supporting children in Uganda?

Bram started giving 100% after getting hired full time by Google, I believe, which continued on. There is an update on the Vim homepage now about it stopping, though I find the wording a bit confusing... I think they are dissolving the charity but still sending donations to Uganda? I feel a bit dumb for not understanding it but you can read the update on https://www.vim.org/ . Unfortunately they don't have target lin…

The OP covers this question at the bottom; donations still go to the same people in Uganda, iiuc.

Re: Vim 9.2

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This. With so much of my work being done with Claude Code via terminal, I’ve used vim and tmux more than I have in the 20 years since I was first introduced.

How many people don’t know tmux in the industry is really beyond me.

With all the buzz about orchestrating in the age of CLI agents there doesn't seem to be much talk about vim + tmux with send-keys (a blessing). You can run as many windows and panes doing so many different things across multiple projects.

Re: Vim 9.2

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> That said I'd have preferred something other than Lua if I had the choice. Same. I know we as a community would never agree on what that language should be, but in my dreams it would have been ruby. Even javascript would have been better for me than Lua.

Lua, especially with LuaJIT, is nearly as fast as C. I certainly don't want to have to run a slow language like Ruby or especially a full blown JS runtime like V8 just to run Vim, the entire point is speed and keyboard ergonomics, otherwise just use VSCode.

V8 is faster than LuaJIT. But sure, it has a large binary size.

Re: Vim 9.2

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“Let’s spend thousands of dollars on lawyers to avoid donating to a good cause”. Large corporations can be so ridiculous.

Big companies can be incredibly penny wise and pound foolish because their beancounters make them obsess over the wrong metrics. My current company has spent the last year cost cutting every single way to stay afloat and now you need a chain of approvals up the management ladder with detailed explanation for every paperclip you want purchase. I can't prove it, but I am willing to bet my entire salary that the costs o…

And they're probably feeling the need to pinch because they are moving slow and falling out of relevance.

When you're being outcompeted and outmaneuvered it's important to slow down and make sure you save a few dollars wherever possible, apparently.

Re: Vim 9.2

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post #115

But where are the AI features?? Gonna get left behind! Only joking of course, actually quite refreshing to see a new version announcement of something this major without any AI nonsense.

The announcement itself looks potentially AI-assisted, judging by the bulleted list style and redundant text under the "Charity: Transition to Kuwasha" section. But maybe some people just write that way.

Wait a couple of more months, and no-none will know to write any other way.
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