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OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission

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Re: OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission

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Post by tsunamifury »

WarmWash wrote: post #27
AlexeyBrin wrote: post #25

Nobody should have any illusion about the purpose of most business - make money. The "safety" is a nice to have if it does not diminish the profits of the business. This is the cold hard truth. If you start to look through the optics of business == money making machine , you can start to think at rational regulations to curb this in order to protect the regular people. The regulations should keep business in check wh…

This is no longer about money, it's about power.

You get it. To everyone who thinks ai is a money furnace they don’t understand the output of the furnace is power and they are happy with the conversion even if the markets aren’t.

Re: OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission

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Post by tsunamifury »

WarmWash wrote: post #58
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is no longer about money, it's about power This is more Altman-speak. Before it was about how AI was going to end the world. That started backfiring, so now we're talking about political power. That power, however, ultimately flows from the wealth AI generates. It's about the money. They're for-profit corporations.

If AI achieves what these guys envision, money probably won't mean much. What would they do with money? Pay people to work?

Pay them to dance.

Re: OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 »

Honestly, it may be contrarian opinion, but: good.

The ridiculous focus on 'safety' and 'alignment' has kept US handicapped when compared to other groups around the globe. I actually allowed myself to forgive Zuckerberg for a lot of of the stuff he did based on what did with llama by 'releasing' it.

There is a reason Musk is currently getting its version of ai into government and it is not just his natural levels of bs skills. Some of it is being able to see that 'safety' is genuinely neutering otherwise useful product.

Re: OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission

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Post by zahlman »

sumeno wrote: post #89
logicx24 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regular people would not be held liable for this. It would be a dubious case even if a human helped another human to do this.

There have absolutely been cases of people being held criminally liable for encouraging someone to commit suicide. In California it is a felony > Any person who deliberately aids, advises, or encourages another to commit suicide is guilty of a felony. https://california.public.law/codes/penal_code_section_401

>>>> helped... write a suicide note.

> encouraging someone to commit suicide.

These are not the same thing. And the evidence from the article is that the bot was anything but encouraging of this plan, up until the end.

Re: OpenAI has deleted the word 'safely' from its mission

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Post by ihsw »

pveierland wrote: post #23

This is something I noticed in the xAI All Hands hiring promotion this week as well. None of the 9 teams presented is a safety team - and safety was mentioned 0 times in the presentation. "Immense economic prosperity" got 2 shout-outs though. Personally I'm doubtful that truthmaxxing alone will provide sufficient guidance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOVnB88Cd1A

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