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Inside Epstein’s network: what 1.4M emails reveal

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Re: Inside Epstein’s network: what 1.4M emails reveal

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Enginerrrd wrote: post #22
64275488537 wrote: post #17

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Respectfully, you also said that "we now know " that taking the COVID19 vaccine could have killed you earlier today, which is completely false. I don't think you are getting your news from reliable sources, and I see this comment as further evidence of that. I'm sure there's lots of information on 4chan about the identity of mass shooters, and that some of it is accurate, but most of it is probably wild speculation,…

To be honest, my working heuristic for over a decade now has been to assume that if someone openly admits to reading 4chan without any hesitation, caveats, or embarrassment, they can quite likely be lumped in with a general basket of deplorables. Is it totally fair? No. Is it reasonably high probability? IMO, yes. Is there likely information value on 4chan that could be difficult to find elsewhere? Probably. Is it wo…

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Re: Inside Epstein’s network: what 1.4M emails reveal

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Post by anechouapechou »

dash2 wrote: post #100
asdff wrote: post #94

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>It's hard not to feel like a lot of people want to paint a picture that Jews are especially depraved and amoral. That is because it is true, a lot of people do want to paint all Jews like that. People would probably find the catholic church stuff even juicier if the vatican was running an intelligence agency that brokers with most other western intelligence agencies with these same rapists. The thing with Epstein is…

Yeah, but 2 things can both be true: 1 The Epstein story has an interesting Mossad angle, maybe they contacted him or even paid him 2 Lunatic antisemites (and probably many bots) are overrunning the internet with medieval-style antisemitism in which Epstein is still alive, babies were eaten, etc.

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Re: Inside Epstein’s network: what 1.4M emails reveal

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Post by anechouapechou »

fromMars wrote: post #85
iterateoften wrote: post #43

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It’s a factual statement that email exists. If it is true or not is another thing. I don’t think it’s controversial to say someone with a history of pedophilia (yes a grown 38 yo man 17yo highschooler is pedophile) being mentioned a the island should at least step back and investigate it.

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Re: Inside Epstein’s network: what 1.4M emails reveal

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Post by anechouapechou »

protocolture wrote: post #60
gowthamgts12 wrote: post #24

How low we have become to do nothing about it? No arrests no convictions?

What do you mean? I understand the reporting is like "LOOK AT ALL THESE CRIMES" but the files themselves are stuff like "Tee hee I know some girls for you". How do you get from that to an arrest or conviction? If you unredacted that person, identified them and called them would they tell you that the girls were all 18 or older? Or would they incriminate themselves? Do you know it hasn't already been followed up on? I…

>>but the files themselves are stuff like "Tee hee I know some girls for you".

Really? Like the multiple "thank you for the pizza" e-mails which the sender was censored, or the whole obsession they have around "jerky" and how to cook jerky, "walk the jerky", or when it was mentioned that Epstein would eat less jerky because he was having some intestinal issues? Even mentioning these things, it still is such a small portion of all the sick shit that is on the files, pictures with literal children, a video of Epstein using a magnifying glass to burn a woman, and you're literally calling it a nothingburger?

Re: Inside Epstein’s network: what 1.4M emails reveal

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Post by anechouapechou »

jrflowers wrote: post #53
RajT88 wrote: post #8

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The amount of breathless conclusion jumping from citizen journalists has been completely bananas as well. I had to tell a friend of mine to take a break from it. The level of tinfoil hat theories (example: cannibalism) which people are now taking as the truth off of which to build more theories is really something. The unfortunate thing is - in our current environment, the crazy speculation and knowingly dealing in j…

> (example: cannibalism) which people are now taking as the truth I haven’t seen any indication of “people that didn’t previously believe in cannibal elites now believe in cannibal elites after reading the emails” being a phenomenon that actually exists. I’ve yet to interact with anyone that has seriously said “I didn’t believe they ate babies on Tuesday but it is Thursday and now I believe they were eating babies.”…

https://www.justice.gov/epstein

Search "jerky"

Re: Inside Epstein’s network: what 1.4M emails reveal

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Post by donkeybeer »

64275488537 wrote: post #17
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Respectfully, you also said that "we now know " that taking the COVID19 vaccine could have killed you earlier today, which is completely false. I don't think you are getting your news from reliable sources, and I see this comment as further evidence of that. I'm sure there's lots of information on 4chan about the identity of mass shooters, and that some of it is accurate, but most of it is probably wild speculation,…

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Re: Inside Epstein’s network: what 1.4M emails reveal

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Post by fromMars »

orwin wrote: post #104
fromMars wrote: post #85

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In my European country, the age of consent it 15 (or 13?), but it is also in the law that if the adult have a hierarchical/coercive power on the minor (parent, teacher, public servant, host/landlord, boss, probably other), the consent is automatically removed and this is pedophilia. It is the same in Spain, and I'd bet in Portugal. The age of consent being this low is to avoid prosecuting 15-20 yo having sex with eac…

> The age of consent being this low is to avoid prosecuting 15-20 yo having sex with each other. Not for gross old men to coerce minors into having sex with them.

I don't buy this argument. That is addressed by age gap laws which some countries have or in the U.S. where there age of consent is different if one of the parties is over 18 and 21.

You can't honestly be claiming that these type of relationships don't occur in these countries. The fact is that in homogeneous populations there seems to be way more tolerance for these kind of age gaps.

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Post by jalapenoi »

asdff wrote: post #94
fromMars wrote: post #88

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Not shocking that this is downvoted around here. On X and the amount of anti-semitic content this is fueling is scary. As a Jewish person, I can't help feel that the magnitude of the outrage is because Epstein and quite a few of his associates were rich Jews. Not to downplay what they did as it was horrible, but I don't recall similar levels of outrage about all the scandals in the Catholic Church. Epstein isn't the…

>It's hard not to feel like a lot of people want to paint a picture that Jews are especially depraved and amoral. That is because it is true, a lot of people do want to paint all Jews like that. People would probably find the catholic church stuff even juicier if the vatican was running an intelligence agency that brokers with most other western intelligence agencies with these same rapists. The thing with Epstein is…

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Post by jalapenoi »

OgsyedIE wrote: post #2

Jack Blanchard in the Politico podcast (almost as good as Odd Lots if you're fine with listening to stuff at 2x speed on commutes) remarked that one of the most important aspects of the response to the publicization of the first 2% of the Epstein Files is that it may be a watershed moment where the better parts of citizen journalism have become completely competitive with institutional journalism, due heavily to the…

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Post by hikkerl »

donkeybeer wrote: post #116
64275488537 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respectfully, you also said that "we now know " that taking the COVID19 vaccine could have killed you earlier today, which is completely false. I don't think you are getting your news from reliable sources, and I see this comment as further evidence of that. I'm sure there's lots of information on 4chan about the identity of mass shooters, and that some of it is accurate, but most of it is probably wild speculation,…

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