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TSMC to make advanced AI semiconductors in Japan

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Re: TSMC to make advanced AI semiconductors in Japan

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Post by Gud »

ido wrote: post #85
joe_mamba wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>High-end chips should be more of a EU concerted effort rather than every country for itself. And how are we gonna do that exactly? EU runs on national interests of those footing the bill, mainly France and Germany as the largest net contributors. When you're relying on national subsidies to build and run a factory and adjacent infrastructure in a country, you're tied to national interests and demands of those countr…

The solution is to make the EU more like an actual unified economic and monitary union- with a central fiscal authority, unified public debt, all member states joining the Eurozone, unified tax system, etc.

No thanks.

Look across the Atlantic for what will eventually happen once you concentrate the power.

I say the power should remain close to the people, decentralized and democratic, not centralised and concentrated.

Re: TSMC to make advanced AI semiconductors in Japan

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Post by tovlier »

joe_mamba wrote: post #101
bojan wrote: post #98

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Be aware that you are discussing with a 48-days old account that is almost exclusively posting doubious takes like this.

>48-days old account Since when is the quality of arguments and the understanding of economics and politics tied to the age of your account? Is this how arguments are won here? Age discrimination goes against HN rules. Your opinion on global events is not automatically more correct than others just because you've been on HN 10 years longer than others. >posting doubious takes like this Universally recognized and fact…

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Re: TSMC to make advanced AI semiconductors in Japan

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Post by Culonavirus »

ido wrote: post #85
joe_mamba wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>High-end chips should be more of a EU concerted effort rather than every country for itself. And how are we gonna do that exactly? EU runs on national interests of those footing the bill, mainly France and Germany as the largest net contributors. When you're relying on national subsidies to build and run a factory and adjacent infrastructure in a country, you're tied to national interests and demands of those countr…

The solution is to make the EU more like an actual unified economic and monitary union- with a central fiscal authority, unified public debt, all member states joining the Eurozone, unified tax system, etc.

Of all the things that are never going to happen, this one will never going to happen the most.

Re: TSMC to make advanced AI semiconductors in Japan

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Post by decimalenough »

petesergeant wrote: post #96
zarzavat wrote: post #80

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TSMC can shut the fabs down whenever they want. If the US think they can take over a fab like it's a t-shirt factory and keep it running without TSMC's cooperation they are sorely mistaken. What are you going to do when none of the Taiwanese workers turn up for work, or worse they do turn up and sabotage the fab.

If you don’t think the US security apparatus will come up with a reasonable plan for doing just that within 2 months of it opening, I don’t think you’re thinking hard enough about this. > What are you going to do when none of the Taiwanese workers turn up for work, or worse they do turn up and sabotage the fab. You’re going to offer them a lot of money, citizenship, and exfiltration of their family to turn up at work…

> If you don’t think the US security apparatus will come up with a reasonable plan

Have you seen the US security apparatus's track record at coming up with reasonable plans for what happens after the military victory? See Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

Re: TSMC to make advanced AI semiconductors in Japan

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Post by lynx97 »

ido wrote: post #85
joe_mamba wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>High-end chips should be more of a EU concerted effort rather than every country for itself. And how are we gonna do that exactly? EU runs on national interests of those footing the bill, mainly France and Germany as the largest net contributors. When you're relying on national subsidies to build and run a factory and adjacent infrastructure in a country, you're tied to national interests and demands of those countr…

The solution is to make the EU more like an actual unified economic and monitary union- with a central fiscal authority, unified public debt, all member states joining the Eurozone, unified tax system, etc.

No, thanks, we really don't need a US of E.

Re: TSMC to make advanced AI semiconductors in Japan

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Post by lynx97 »

joe_mamba wrote: post #101
bojan wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be aware that you are discussing with a 48-days old account that is almost exclusively posting doubious takes like this.

>48-days old account Since when is the quality of arguments and the understanding of economics and politics tied to the age of your account? Is this how arguments are won here? Age discrimination goes against HN rules. Your opinion on global events is not automatically more correct than others just because you've been on HN 10 years longer than others. >posting doubious takes like this Universally recognized and fact…

They're trying to imply that fresh accounts might be used to steer opinions, IOW, they're trying to imply that you are a politically motivated kind of bot...

I agree, its a rather shady approach. But here you go, we'll get more and more of this, its a conveneient method to discredit discussion partners with unwanted opinions.

Re: TSMC to make advanced AI semiconductors in Japan

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Post by NicuCalcea »

lynx97 wrote: post #116
ido wrote: post #85

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The solution is to make the EU more like an actual unified economic and monitary union- with a central fiscal authority, unified public debt, all member states joining the Eurozone, unified tax system, etc.

No, thanks, we really don't need a US of E.

Speak for yourself.

Re: TSMC to make advanced AI semiconductors in Japan

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Post by lynx97 »

selestify wrote: post #99
joe_mamba wrote: post #94

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Firstly, NO, the US is a country, the EU is not. Secondly, even if the US as a country is tighter integrated and more financially successful than the EU as a union, the US is not a successful model example of a well functioning society that people in the EU would aspire to emulate, on the contrary, they'd rather preserve the status quo than turning into something resembling what the US has become.

Ok, well I guess if Europe is fine with a continued slide in global economic relevance, they can keep their status quo. But something tells me that's not what Europeans generally want...

European here, you can keep your US of E stuff... We dont need more concentration of power, we need less of it. The EU is a hopeless cause anyway...
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