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Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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Re: Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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Post by KingOfCoders »

iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #46
KingOfCoders wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're always hit hardest when it's your idols. Also: Nothing better to do.

Honestly, the reactions I am seeing suggest exactly this issue. I personally like the guy and have some level of respect of the work he has done over the course of the years, but I see no need to automatically defend him from scrutiny. This is the part that annoys the crap out of me in today's environment -- and if more people had more sense, it would annoy them too. Sufficiently radioactive accusation is enough to m…

Yes, first heard of Chomsky in computer science classes at university, then was totally amazed by reading a decade later Manufacturing Consent - the same guy! I thought. So, it's very sad for me to read all of this - fighting for East Timor while at the same time hanging out with the Elite and taking their money - preaching water and drinking wine and all of that - exactly the people written about in many of his texts.

Re: Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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Post by cthalupa »

db48x wrote: post #91
cthalupa wrote: post #9

It's very easy to believe that Epstein cultivated a massive quantity of relationships with any sort of rich, famous, influential, or powerful person he could. It's very easy to believe that many of them, for much of his existence, had no idea what was really going on. It's very easy to believe that plenty of "normal" (for relative values of normal here) people had no idea how to act when this all came to light and ju…

> But we also know a whole fucking lot of them did know exactly what was going on and partook in some manner. Actually, you don’t know that. You’re merely assuming it.

So all the trafficking was occurring just for Epstein himself?

C'mon.

Re: Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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cthalupa wrote: post #112
db48x wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But we also know a whole fucking lot of them did know exactly what was going on and partook in some manner. Actually, you don’t know that. You’re merely assuming it.

So all the trafficking was occurring just for Epstein himself? C'mon.

Be careful, that’s not what I said. In response to your statement that “a whole fucking lot of them did know exactly what was going on and partook”, I said only that you don’t have personal knowledge of the facts needed to prove your statement. You don’t know if Epstein provided girls for “a whole fucking lot” of people or just a few. You have no knowledge of how many “partook”. As there have been no convictions of anyone else, none of us do. All we have are allegations. Please confine yourself to statements of fact.

Re: Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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db48x wrote: post #113
cthalupa wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So all the trafficking was occurring just for Epstein himself? C'mon.

Be careful, that’s not what I said. In response to your statement that “a whole fucking lot of them did know exactly what was going on and partook”, I said only that you don’t have personal knowledge of the facts needed to prove your statement. You don’t know if Epstein provided girls for “a whole fucking lot” of people or just a few. You have no knowledge of how many “partook”. As there have been no convictions of a…

More than a billion dollar global sex trafficking ring. Girls from all over latin america, america itself, france, england, asia. There is more than enough information available to know that this involved more than a hundred people.

That's a whole fucking lot of people to be partaking in a child sex trafficking ring and this idea that somehow we need to know which specific individuals were involved and have convictions for them to make a statement that is plainly true is really weird.

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cthalupa wrote: post #114
db48x wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be careful, that’s not what I said. In response to your statement that “a whole fucking lot of them did know exactly what was going on and partook”, I said only that you don’t have personal knowledge of the facts needed to prove your statement. You don’t know if Epstein provided girls for “a whole fucking lot” of people or just a few. You have no knowledge of how many “partook”. As there have been no convictions of a…

More than a billion dollar global sex trafficking ring. Girls from all over latin america, america itself, france, england, asia. There is more than enough information available to know that this involved more than a hundred people. That's a whole fucking lot of people to be partaking in a child sex trafficking ring and this idea that somehow we need to know which specific individuals were involved and have convictio…

He had a net worth of half a billion, I thought. And there’s no reason to suspect that he used all of it for nefarious activities. A million dollars would have sufficed to fly girls from all over the world. But that’s beside the point.
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