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AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by bwfan123 »

barishnamazov wrote: post #29

This write-up has good ideas but gives me the "AI-generated reading fatigue." Things that can cleanly be expressed in 1-2 sentences are whole paragraphs, often with examples that seem unnecessary or unrealistic. There are also some wrong claims like below: > The Hacker News front page alone is enough to give you whiplash. One day it's "Show HN: Autonomous Research Swarm" and the next it's "Ask HN: How will AI swarms…

> but gives me the "AI-generated reading fatigue."

Agree. The article could have been summarized into a few paragraphs. Instead, we get unnecessary verbiage that goes on and on in an AI generated frenzy. Like the "organic" label on food items, I can foresee labels on content denoting the kind of human generating the content: "suburbs-raised" "free-lancer" etc.

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by mikkupikku »

parpfish wrote: post #18

For me the fatigue is a little different— it’s the constant switching between doing a little bit of work/coding/reviewing and then stopping to wait for the llm to generate something. The waits are unpredictable length, so you never know if you should wait or switch to a new task. So you just do something to kill a little time while the machine thinks. You never get into a flow state and you feel worn down from this c…

I know this is a terribly irresponsible and immature suggestion, but what I've been doing is every time I give claude code a request of indeterminate length, I just hit a blunt and chill out. That and sometimes I'll tab into the kind of game that can be picked up and put down on very short notice, here's where I shameless plug for the free and open source game Endless Sky.

For me personally, programming lost most of it's fun many years ago, but with claude code I'm having fun again. It's not the same, but for me personally, at this stage in my life, it's more enjoyable.

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by tempodox »

CurleighBraces wrote: post #13

I loved the section about trying to fight against a system that isn't deterministic. LLMs because of their nature require constant hand-holding by humans, unless business are willing to make them entirely accountable for the systems/products they produce.

How could you hold a dumb machine “accountable”? Attempting that would be insane. How would you discipline it? Reduce the voltage in its power supply?

Do you hold the dice accountable when you lose at the craps table?

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by ryukoposting »

idopmstuff wrote: post #96
barishnamazov wrote: post #29

This write-up has good ideas but gives me the "AI-generated reading fatigue." Things that can cleanly be expressed in 1-2 sentences are whole paragraphs, often with examples that seem unnecessary or unrealistic. There are also some wrong claims like below: > The Hacker News front page alone is enough to give you whiplash. One day it's "Show HN: Autonomous Research Swarm" and the next it's "Ask HN: How will AI swarms…

> Things that can cleanly be expressed in 1-2 sentences are whole paragraphs Funny, I don't associate that with AI. I associate it with having to write papers of a specific length in high school. (Though at least those were usually numbers of pages, so you could get a little juice from tweaking margins, line spacing and font size.)

I had word/page quotas, but I also don't write my blog in a way that resembles the papers I wrote for school 10 years ago.

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Post by StilesCrisis »

barishnamazov wrote: post #29

This write-up has good ideas but gives me the "AI-generated reading fatigue." Things that can cleanly be expressed in 1-2 sentences are whole paragraphs, often with examples that seem unnecessary or unrealistic. There are also some wrong claims like below: > The Hacker News front page alone is enough to give you whiplash. One day it's "Show HN: Autonomous Research Swarm" and the next it's "Ask HN: How will AI swarms…

"You're not imagining it." I hit back immediately.

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by thesumofall »

I agree with the sentiment. I don‘t code a lot, but AI has sped up things in all fields for which I use AI (or at least the expectation of speed has grown). For me, it’s the context switching but also just the mental load of holding so many projects and ideas together in my head. It somewhat helps that the usable context of LLMs has grown over time so I tend to trust the „memory“ of the AI a bit more to keep track of things and somewhat try to offload stuff from my brain

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by Kiro »

dangus wrote: post #85

I think the fatigue is that the technology has been hyped since long before today when it’s actually started to become somewhat useful. And even today when it’s useful, it’s really most useful for very specific domains like coding. It’s not been impressive at all with other applications. Just chat with your local AI chat bot when you call customer service. For example, I watch a YouTube channel where this guy calls u…

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Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by zagfh »

Of course you are more tired: Code review is more difficult than writing code.

They you have to deal with slop, slopfluencer articles written under the influence of AI psychosis, AI addicts, lying managers, lying CEOs etc.

And you usually, the author of this article being an exception, get dumber and are only able to verbalize AI boosterism.

AI only works if you become a slopfluencer, sell a course on YouTube and have people "like and subscribe".

Re: AI fatigue is real and nobody talks about it

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Post by jaapz »

parpfish wrote: post #89
ericmcer wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously and beyond productivity, flow state was what I liked most about the job. A cup of coffee and noise cancelling headphones and a 2 hour locked in session were when I felt most in love with programming.

I love the flow state, and I’m pretty sure it’s fundamentally incompatible with prompting. For me, when the flow state kicks in, it’s completely nonverbal and my inner dialogue shuts up. I think that’s part of why it feels so cool and fun when it hits. But LLM prompting requires you to constantly engage with language processing to summarize and review the problem.

That's pretty funny because LLM's actually help me achieve flow state easier because they help me automate away the dumb shit that normally kind of blocks me. Flow state for me is not (just) churning out lines of code but having that flow of thought in my head that eventually flows to a solved problem without being interrupted. Interesting that for you the flow state actually means your mind shutting up lol. For me it means shutting up about random shit that doesn't matter to the task at hand and being focused only on solving the current problem.

It helps that I don't outsource huge tasks to the LLM, because then I lose track of what's happening and what needs to be done. I just code the fun part, then ask the LLM to do the parts that I find boring (like updating all 2000 usages of a certain function I just changed).

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