> The Waymo World Model can convert those kinds of videos, or any taken with a regular camera, into a multimodal simulation—showing how the Waymo Driver would see that exact scene. Subtle brag that Waymo could drive in camera-only mode if they chose to. They've stated as much previously, but that doesn't seem widely known.
I've always wondered... if Lidar + Cameras is always making the right decision, you should theoretically be able to take the output of the Lidar + Cameras model and use it as training data for a Camera only model.
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#112Still needs to be trained on the final boss: dense cities with narrow streets.
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Seems like it, no?We started with physics-based simulators for training policies. Then put them in the real world using modular perception/prediction/planning systems. Once enough data was collected, we went back to making simulators. This time, they're physics "informed" deep learning models.
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#114Imagine driving in a Waymo 'out of a raging fire'. Talk about edge cases. But, what would you do? Trust the Waymo, or get out (or never get in) at the first sign of trouble?
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've always wondered... if Lidar + Cameras is always making the right decision, you should theoretically be able to take the output of the Lidar + Cameras model and use it as training data for a Camera only model.
Sure, but those models would never have online access to information only provided in lidar data…
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#116Still needs to be trained on the final boss: dense cities with narrow streets.
San Francisco isn't uniformly dense and narrow, but it does have both, and it's run remarkably well so far.
Anyway, we'll see how the London rollout goes, but I get the impression London's got a lot more of those kinds of roads.
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#117Vivaldi 7.8.3931.63 on iOS 26.2.1 iPhone 16 pro
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#118Suddenly all this focus on world models by Deep mind starts to make sense. I've never really thought of Waymo as a robot in the same way as e.g. a Boston Dynamics humanoid, but of course it is a robot of sorts. Google/Alphabet are so vertically integrated for AI when you think about it. Compare what they're doing - their own power generation , their own silicon, their own data centers, search Gmail YouTube Gemini wor…
Tesla built something like this for FSD training, they presented many years ago. I never understood why they did productize it. It would have made a brilliant Maps alternative, which country automatically update from Tesla cars on the road. Could live update with speed cameras and road conditions. Like many things they've fallen behind
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Completely false: https://x.com/i/status/2019213765506670738 Listen to the statement. The operators help when the Waymo is in a "difficult situation". Car drives itself 99% of the time, long tail of issues not yet fixed have a human intervene. Everyone is making out like it's an RC car, completely false.
I haven't read anything about this but I would also suppose long distance human intervention cannot be done for truly critical situations where you need a very quick reaction, whereas it would be more appropriate in situations where the car has stopped and is stuck not knowing what to do. Probably just stating the obvious here but indeed this seems like something very different from an RC car kind of situation.
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#120Suddenly all this focus on world models by Deep mind starts to make sense. I've never really thought of Waymo as a robot in the same way as e.g. a Boston Dynamics humanoid, but of course it is a robot of sorts. Google/Alphabet are so vertically integrated for AI when you think about it. Compare what they're doing - their own power generation , their own silicon, their own data centers, search Gmail YouTube Gemini wor…
Google's been thinking about world models since at least 2018: https://arxiv.org/abs/1803.10122