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Re: Sam Altman responds to Anthropic's "Ads are coming to AI. But not to Claude" ads

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Post by AndyKelley »

Lerc wrote: post #96
AndyKelley wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're letting pedantry hinder you from seeing a useful pattern.

I shall take that as a no, then. I don't think it takes pedantry to think advertising in order to solicit funds for a non-profit is still advertising. If anything the criteria I would apply is does it diminish the user experience while attempting to motivate the viewer to act in a manner that benefits the advertiser. May I ask why you do not consider it advertising? Is it because it is asking for donations? Because i…

As an example, a line that they don't cross, but a for-profit company absolutely would, is compromising the integrity of the encyclopedia articles. For example, a marketing department would pay a lot of money for Wikipedia to delete or soften https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_of_Nestl%C3%A9 but they'll never do that, not for profit at least.

Re: Sam Altman responds to Anthropic's "Ads are coming to AI. But not to Claude" ads

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Post by bmitc »

samstokes wrote: post #36
bmitc wrote: post #31

Is he claiming that Anthropic doesn't have a free Claude Code? Because it does.

Does it? Claude the chatbot is available for free, and it can write code, but Claude Code is a separate product that as far as I know is only available on paid plans. Source: https://claude.com/product/claude-code

I guess I mixed the two, but I suppose the point still stands because Anthropic has a free Claude chatbot _and_ OpenAI doesn't have a Claude Code product (does it?).

Re: Sam Altman responds to Anthropic's "Ads are coming to AI. But not to Claude" ads

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Post by 4d4m »

djeastm wrote: post #57
mi_lk wrote: post #42

your daily Streisand effect: * https://youtu.be/FBSam25u8O4 * https://youtu.be/De-_wQpKw0s * https://youtu.be/kQRu7DdTTVA * https://youtu.be/3sVD3aG_azw Hope the dude is ok, can't imagine getting so offended by these ads

I hadn't watched these before, but wow the AI wars are no joke. "Betrayal", "Deception", "Violation", "Treachery"... It's like the Cola Wars, but 10x more personal.

When I first saw these titles I thought they were cheesey. Then I started to appreciate the advertising team's distillation of the core user pain point into a single word at the intro. Completely changed my initial perspective!

Re: Sam Altman responds to Anthropic's "Ads are coming to AI. But not to Claude" ads

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Post by 4d4m »

clydethefrog wrote: post #102
mi_lk wrote: post #42

your daily Streisand effect: * https://youtu.be/FBSam25u8O4 * https://youtu.be/De-_wQpKw0s * https://youtu.be/kQRu7DdTTVA * https://youtu.be/3sVD3aG_azw Hope the dude is ok, can't imagine getting so offended by these ads

Interesting part of the making of these ads - "While Claude helped behind the scenes – synthesising research and streamlining production – Anthropic and Mother say the concept, direction, scripts, performances and production were led by human teams." https://lbbonline.com/news/claude-anthropic-mother-jeff-low-... I wonder how much the CEO of ChatGPT used his own weapon to counter (very weakly, imo) this human-made at…

No need to wonder there are em dashes everywhere — —

Re: Sam Altman responds to Anthropic's "Ads are coming to AI. But not to Claude" ads

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Post by tstrimple »

paxys wrote: post #18

I will never understand these chronically online CEOs. Your company has given up its massive lead in AI and is falling further behind Google and Anthropic with every passing day and you have nothing better to do than fight ego battles with random people on X all day? Should be a clear signal to the board that there needs to be a shake up at the top.

It has worked fabulously well for Musk. Can't be surprised other's are trying a similar approach. There is evidence that senior executives have more traits associated with psychopathy than the general population. Seems like the thing to expect really. Wonder what media platform Altman will buy.

Re: Sam Altman responds to Anthropic's "Ads are coming to AI. But not to Claude" ads

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Post by Jbrewu »

bmitc wrote: post #112
samstokes wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it? Claude the chatbot is available for free, and it can write code, but Claude Code is a separate product that as far as I know is only available on paid plans. Source: https://claude.com/product/claude-code

I guess I mixed the two, but I suppose the point still stands because Anthropic has a free Claude chatbot _and_ OpenAI doesn't have a Claude Code product (does it?).

It does. The product is called Codex and it’s mentioned in the post.

Re: Sam Altman responds to Anthropic's "Ads are coming to AI. But not to Claude" ads

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Post by skue »

4d4m wrote: post #114
clydethefrog wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting part of the making of these ads - "While Claude helped behind the scenes – synthesising research and streamlining production – Anthropic and Mother say the concept, direction, scripts, performances and production were led by human teams." https://lbbonline.com/news/claude-anthropic-mother-jeff-low-... I wonder how much the CEO of ChatGPT used his own weapon to counter (very weakly, imo) this human-made at…

No need to wonder there are em dashes everywhere — —

And where do you think AIs learned to use em dashes? Anyone who knows a modicum of typography uses em dashes. There’s a reason devices like iOS automatically convert double hyphens to em dashes (or straight quotes to curly quotes).

Only young people who grew up texting and eliding standard punctuation find em dashes unfamiliar.

Re: Sam Altman responds to Anthropic's "Ads are coming to AI. But not to Claude" ads

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Post by bmitc »

Jbrewu wrote: post #117
bmitc wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess I mixed the two, but I suppose the point still stands because Anthropic has a free Claude chatbot _and_ OpenAI doesn't have a Claude Code product (does it?).

It does. The product is called Codex and it’s mentioned in the post.

My mistake.

Re: Sam Altman responds to Anthropic's "Ads are coming to AI. But not to Claude" ads

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Post by albedoa »

Gud wrote: post #97
user568439 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These videos have high chance of aging like milk... We'll see what Anthropic does 10 years from now. Remember "don't be evil"

It was bullshit then, it’s bullshit now. I pay ChatGPT 20 bucks a month, or whatever the subscription is. I get massive value out of this, Sam Altman is paying for my computing power. I’m paying a tenth(or less) of what the actual price is. Once that no longer applies, I will ditch ChatGPT and probably build my own LLM computer. So thanks Sam for giving me cheap computing power.

That is so interesting man, keep us updated.
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