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Apple Platform Security (Jan 2026) [pdf]

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Re: Apple Platform Security (Jan 2026) [pdf]

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Apple's commitment to privacy and security is really cool to see. It's also an amazing strategic play that they are uniquely in the position to take advantage of. Google and Meta can't commit to privacy because they need to show you ads, whereas Apple feels more like a hardware company to me.

It's all tempered by them ultimately controlling what you can put on your phone though. As was demonstrated in LA, it's starting to have significant civil rights consequences.

What happened in LA?

Re: Apple Platform Security (Jan 2026) [pdf]

#112

Apple's commitment to privacy and security is really cool to see. It's also an amazing strategic play that they are uniquely in the position to take advantage of. Google and Meta can't commit to privacy because they need to show you ads, whereas Apple feels more like a hardware company to me.

I still like their hardware. But let’s not pretend that there is any part of Trump’s body that he won’t kiss and sell out his customers for. If Trump asked Cook to put a backdoor in iPhones or impose tariffs on Apple, Cook would do it in a minute

Cook couldn't personally put that backdoor in himself though. There would (presumably) be Apple employees who would blow the whistle if they received such a command.

Re: Apple Platform Security (Jan 2026) [pdf]

#113
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Apple sells some ads yes. But it’s a tiny fraction of their revenue. Would Google or Meta go bankrupt if they stopped selling ads? Yes. Apple wouldn’t.

Apple would go bankrupt without US protectionist policy propping up their service revenue. That's pretty bad. Maybe not "reliant on ad monopoly" bad, but pretty close.

That seems like a stretch. Even in Europe where people can choose to use different app stores, few people actually do. So few, in fact, that one of the alternative app stores recently shut down.

Have you considered that people just like Apple's products and services?

Re: Apple Platform Security (Jan 2026) [pdf]

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I still like their hardware. But let’s not pretend that there is any part of Trump’s body that he won’t kiss and sell out his customers for. If Trump asked Cook to put a backdoor in iPhones or impose tariffs on Apple, Cook would do it in a minute

Cook couldn't personally put that backdoor in himself though. There would (presumably) be Apple employees who would blow the whistle if they received such a command.

In today’s market? You see how many tech workers have shut up about protesting every little thing inside large companies with all of the layoffs happening?

I have been cocky for 30 heads with the thought that I could always find a job quickly - and have even in 2023 (3 offers within 2 weeks) after being Amazoned and in 2024 (just replied to one recruiter the day after a layoff). But even I shut up and keep my head down these days. As long as we ain’t killing kids, I am not saying anything.

Re: Apple Platform Security (Jan 2026) [pdf]

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Apple's ad revenue was 1% of its total in 2024. It was estimated to be 2-3% in 2025. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/pdfs/fy2024-q4/FY24_Q4_Consol... https://www.macrumors.com/2025/10/30/apple-4q-2025-earnings/

Their net profit was a little over $100 billion last fiscal year. They get $20 Billion+ in pure profit from Google being their default search engine. That’s 20% of their profit

Google paying Apple to be the default search engine is not the same as Apple selling $20 billion worth of ads to track you.

Re: Apple Platform Security (Jan 2026) [pdf]

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Their net profit was a little over $100 billion last fiscal year. They get $20 Billion+ in pure profit from Google being their default search engine. That’s 20% of their profit

Google paying Apple to be the default search engine is not the same as Apple selling $20 billion worth of ads to track you.

Google isn’t just paying Apple $20 billion, it’s based on click throughs on ads in Safari. Apple is very much getting paid based on the ad economy.

Re: Apple Platform Security (Jan 2026) [pdf]

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Google paying Apple to be the default search engine is not the same as Apple selling $20 billion worth of ads to track you.

Google isn’t just paying Apple $20 billion, it’s based on click throughs on ads in Safari. Apple is very much getting paid based on the ad economy.

But it still isn't Apple doing the tracking or receiving the data about your Google searches. They aren't Apple's ads, they're Google's ads.

Re: Apple Platform Security (Jan 2026) [pdf]

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Google isn’t just paying Apple $20 billion, it’s based on click throughs on ads in Safari. Apple is very much getting paid based on the ad economy.

But it still isn't Apple doing the tracking or receiving the data about your Google searches. They aren't Apple's ads, they're Google's ads.

How does that matter? Apple is still seeing 20% of its profits from ads and Google is still tracking you through Apple’s browser and Apple is getting paid for it.

Re: Apple Platform Security (Jan 2026) [pdf]

#119
post #36

Apple's commitment to privacy and security is really cool to see. It's also an amazing strategic play that they are uniquely in the position to take advantage of. Google and Meta can't commit to privacy because they need to show you ads, whereas Apple feels more like a hardware company to me.

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You can't sell cell phones and "not care about security". There are these things called government regulators that won't let you sell them anymore if security issues happen.

Re: Apple Platform Security (Jan 2026) [pdf]

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post #43

Apple's commitment to privacy and security is really cool to see. It's also an amazing strategic play that they are uniquely in the position to take advantage of. Google and Meta can't commit to privacy because they need to show you ads, whereas Apple feels more like a hardware company to me.

> Apple's commitment to privacy We know now that it was all marketing talk. Apple didn’t like Meta so they spun a bunch of obstacles. Apple has and would use your data for ads, models and anything that keeps the shareholders happy. And we don’t know the half of the story where as a US corp, they’re technically obliged to share data from the not-E2EE iCloud syncs of every iPhone.

> Apple has and would use your data for ads, models and anything that keeps the shareholders happy.

Illegal to do this in (at least) the EU, California and China.

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