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The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by techblueberry »

pinnochio wrote: post #84
moomoo11 wrote: post #62

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I actually think Sam is “better” than say Elon or Dario because he seems like a typical SF/SV tech bro. You probably know the type (not talking about some 600k TC fang worker, I mean entrepreneurs). He says a lot of fluff, doesn’t try to be very extreme, and focuses on selling. I don’t know him personally but he comes across like an average person if that makes sense (in this environment that is). I think I personall…

Altman is a consummate liar and manipulator with no moral scruples. I think this LLM business is ethically compromised from the start, but Dario is easily the least worst of the three.

Darío unsettles me the most, he kinda reminds me of SBF, I wouldn’t be surprised if, well they’re all bad its to stack rank them.

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by philo_sophia »

TheRoque wrote: post #70
pinnochio wrote: post #51

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> leaked emails where founders say they just wanna get rich without any consideration of their initial "open" claims Point me to these? Would like to have a look.

Sorry, not leaked emails, but it's the Greg Brockman's diary and leaked texts. I didn't find the original lawsuit documents, but there's a screenshot in this video: https://youtu.be/csybdOY_CQM?si=otx3yn4N26iZoN7L&t=182 (timestamp is 3:02 if you don't see it) There's more details about the behind-the-scenes and greg brockman's diary leaks in this article: https://www.techbuzz.ai/articles/open-ai-lawsuit-exposed-the..…

Hate that bringing fraud to justice means paying out to the wealthiest person on the planet....

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by wmf »

consumer451 wrote: post #77
bredren wrote: post #72

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How about Apple? How is Apple training its next foundation models?

To use the parlance of this thread: "next" foundation models is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Am I doing this right? My point is, does Apple have any useful foundation models? Last I checked they made a deal with OpenAI, no wait, now with Google.

Apple does have their own small foundation models but it's not clear they require a lot of GPUs to train.

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by binary132 »

moomoo11 wrote: post #78
jacquesm wrote: post #66

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> I actually think Sam is “better” than say Elon or even Dario because he seems like a typical SF/SV tech bro. If you nail the bar to the floor, then sure, you can pass over it. > He says a lot of fluff, doesn’t try to be very extreme, and focuses on selling. I don't now what your definition of extreme is but by mine he's pretty extreme. > I think I personally prefer that over Elon’s self induced mental illnesses and…

That’s ok, but AI is useful in particular use cases for many people. I use it a lot and I prefer the Codex 5.2 extra high reasoning model. The AI slop and dumb shit on IG/YT is like the LCD of humans though. They’ve always been there and always will be there to be annoying af. Before AI slop we had brain rot made by humans. I think over time it (LLM based) will become like an augmenter, not something like what they’r…

some people are so determined to be positive about AI that at some point it just comes across like they’re getting paid to be

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by windexh8er »

moomoo11 wrote: post #62
ryanSrich wrote: post #45

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I think there are two things that happened 1. OpenAI bet largely on consumer. Consumers have mostly rejected AI. And in a lot of cases even hate it (can't go on TikTok or Reddit without people calling something slop, or hating on AI generated content). Anthropic on the other hand went all in on B2B and coding. That seems to be the much better market to be in. 2. Sam Altman is profoundly unlikable.

I actually think Sam is “better” than say Elon or Dario because he seems like a typical SF/SV tech bro. You probably know the type (not talking about some 600k TC fang worker, I mean entrepreneurs). He says a lot of fluff, doesn’t try to be very extreme, and focuses on selling. I don’t know him personally but he comes across like an average person if that makes sense (in this environment that is). I think I personall…

He's definitely not. If Altman. Is a "typical" SF/SV tech bro then that's an indication the valley has turned full d-bag. Altman's past is gross. So, if he's the norm then I will vehemently avoid any dollars of mine going to OAI. I paid for an account for a while, but just like Musk I lose nothing over actively avoiding his Ponzi scheme of a company.

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by ymyms »

system2 wrote: post #87
consumer451 wrote: post #77

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To use the parlance of this thread: "next" foundation models is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Am I doing this right? My point is, does Apple have any useful foundation models? Last I checked they made a deal with OpenAI, no wait, now with Google.

I think Apple is waiting for the bubble to deflate, then do something different. And they have the ready to use user base to provide what they can make money from.

They apparently are working on and are going to release 2(!) different versions of siri. Idk, that just screams "leadership doesn't know what to do and can't make a tough decision" to me. but who knows? maybe two versions of siri is what people will want.

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by pinnochio »

techblueberry wrote: post #111
pinnochio wrote: post #84

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Altman is a consummate liar and manipulator with no moral scruples. I think this LLM business is ethically compromised from the start, but Dario is easily the least worst of the three.

Darío unsettles me the most, he kinda reminds me of SBF, I wouldn’t be surprised if, well they’re all bad its to stack rank them.

I don't think he's good, but afaik he isn't trying to make everyone psychologically dependent on Claude and releasing sex bots.

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by consumer451 »

ymyms wrote: post #116
system2 wrote: post #87

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I think Apple is waiting for the bubble to deflate, then do something different. And they have the ready to use user base to provide what they can make money from.

They apparently are working on and are going to release 2(!) different versions of siri. Idk, that just screams "leadership doesn't know what to do and can't make a tough decision" to me. but who knows? maybe two versions of siri is what people will want.

Arena mode! Which reply do you prefer? /s

But seriously, would one be for newer phone/tablet models, and one for older?

Re: The $100B megadeal between OpenAI and Nvidia is on ice

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Post by kreelman »

chihuahua wrote: post #98
pinnochio wrote: post #58

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All the manipulation and lying that got him fired.

He is a pretty interesting case. According to the book "Empire of AI" about OpenAI, he lies constantly, even about things that are too trivial to matter. So it may be part of some compulsive behavior. And when two people want different things from him, he "resolves" the conflict by agreeing with each of them separately, and then each assumes they got what they wanted, until they talk to the other person and find out…

He was once a big pin in Y Combinator (I think kind of ran it?)... Paul Graham thought he was great for YC.

Interesting that he's got as far as he has with this issue. I don't think you can run a company effectively if you don't deal in truth.

Some of his videos have seemed quite bizarre as well, quite sarcastic about concerns people have about AI in general.

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