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Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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> Plus employees will have to opt in? If a company policy says you have to opt in, not opting in means you're breaching the policy and might get fired. Entirely legal in at-will employment places, but potentially not in places with better worker protections. Saying that, I just got announcement from my employer they will not be turning it on for now.

Employees need to join a union

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Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Here's the actual "roadmap" feature (scroll to the bottom where the filtered list is): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?search... The actual feature brief is: "When users connect to their organization's Wi-Fi, Teams will soon be able to automatically update their work location to reflect the building they're working from. This feature will be off by default. Tenant admins will decide whether to e…

I think its cool, so I can who is in the office for lunch. Currently I manually check device IPs.

And there's me asking people :/

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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> Microsoft confirmed that starting March 2026 (delayed from January), managers will be able to see your real-time location. And no, disconnecting from the office Wi-Fi won't save you.

Is there anything more than the Wifi SSID stuff below?

> If you connect to a Wi-Fi network that isn't your company's, Teams will simply display the name of that network. So if you decide to take a "working lunch" and connect to "Starbucks_Guest_WiFi", your boss sees it instantly. You can’t hide behind a generic "Remote" status anymore.

So how exactly does this work? It'd be pretty trivial setup my access point to provide a work SSID? How much access does Teams really have to get info to discern your location?

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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This article is like 300 words. Would it have killed them to not generate it using AI?

Maybe this will change one day but at the current moment this is an immediate turnoff. It's like someone trying to show you their project day 1 and it's a page filled with ads and a newsletter popup. You may have good reasons to do that but it doesn't instill a sense of trust and quality.

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Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Here's the actual "roadmap" feature (scroll to the bottom where the filtered list is): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?search... The actual feature brief is: "When users connect to their organization's Wi-Fi, Teams will soon be able to automatically update their work location to reflect the building they're working from. This feature will be off by default. Tenant admins will decide whether to e…

Our building security system updates something somewhere which ties into email. When we have incidents such as "the lifts are broken" or "the south exit is closed" or whatever, these get emailed to all staff that have been in the the building in the last so many hours (16 I'd assume). It's a handy system.

Ultimately if you are at the type of company which practices presenteeism, then the technology used is immaterial

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When I started working at a time with no mobiles and no remote, calling or being called to the office for personal reasons was seen with disrespect from your coworkers. At work you were supposed to be working, and outside of work you were supposed not to be working. Pretty much as in the Severance series, but without the forgetting. With mobiles and connectivity, everything changed, I'm unsure if for better. Now you can work 24/7 or slack all day as if there were no tomorrow.

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It's so pathetic that people actually put up with this. There are so many ways to stop that tracking from working and no, your boss doesn't have the right to track you.

No, he can't track you but yes, he can track his devices.

If you install corporate teams on your personal device, you are part of the problem.

You must request a device for that and never mix personal and professional stuff.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Here's the actual "roadmap" feature (scroll to the bottom where the filtered list is): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?search... The actual feature brief is: "When users connect to their organization's Wi-Fi, Teams will soon be able to automatically update their work location to reflect the building they're working from. This feature will be off by default. Tenant admins will decide whether to e…

This feels like a much better feature than “they can track your realtime location from the mobile app” as implied in the article? Plus employees will have to opt in? The tracking is still gross, but limited to opt-in on office WiFi seems a lot less dramatic of a headline, especially given the main concern people have is work from home

They can already do… pretty much any organization uses a VPN or “ZTNA” to provide access to resources so they know where you are.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If you decide to take a "working lunch" and connect to "Starbucks_Guest_WiFi", your boss sees it instantly Can't you just rename your home wifi SSID to be whatever your Work wifi is called?

The roadmap description is not really specific enough to either back up what the article is saying or describe if this approach would/wouldn't do anything, so I'm wondering the same kinds of things. If I were to try to implement the given task description, I'd start with assuming this would need to be "Enterprise gives an exports of BSSIDs and locations, Teams uses that table to set the location when you connect to y…

> If it really is SSID based, the feature would be relatively useless for most organizations even before discussion trying to spoof it. E.g. the last place I worked had ~3,500 physical addresses with APs (and many more individual buildings/"office" names), all with the same "Corp_Name_Employee" SSID because otherwise it's way more work to have unique SSIDs. So how would this feature even do what it's supposed to do based on SSID?

Maybe the enterprise exports a table of AP MAC addresses, mapped to locations. It could be the SSID stuff is just a way to spy on what non-office location you were at.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

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FTA > Remember when you could text Dave from the office to turn your PC on because you were stuck in traffic? I honestly don't. This was a thing? Why? > So if you decide to take a "working lunch" and connect to "Starbucks_Guest_WiFi", your boss sees it instantly. I would have a lot of fun with "creative" names for my Wi-fi network.

I think they would have thought of that and are likely using MAC addresses and a lookup table tied up Active Server, etc. Yes, MAC addresses can be spoofed, but that isn't going to be what most employees will do.

No I just meant prank names for the network.
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