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Re: Grid: Free, local-first, browser-based 3D printing/CNC/laser slicer

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post #108

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You could have clicked on my profile to find the app that you're criticizing unfairly. It does not use react, but it uses pure html5,css,js, it is extremely fast and light. And yet, there are things that it can not do simply because it runs in the browser, which is a poor operating system for a hard real time program to run under.

I did not criticize your app. I offered that your blanket statement that "The browser is an extremely poor medium to deliver applications" does not comport with my experience. And it looks like I nailed it, too. It is the nature of your application. Had you said "the browser does not offer a real time API which I need for my application", there would have been nothing to say. This is obviously true. Even native deskt…

Ah, the true Scotsman version of 'not that kind of app'.

Re: Grid: Free, local-first, browser-based 3D printing/CNC/laser slicer

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Washington state lawmakers, led by Democrats, have introduced bills like HB 2320 and HB 2321. HB 2320 is sponsored solely by Rep. Osman Salahuddin (D-48th District), focusing on prohibiting 3D printers and CNC machines for untraceable firearms. HB 2321, pushing printer DRM requirements, similarly lacks Republican co-sponsors based on available details. In Washington where this is going on in the state House Democrats…

The democrats can eat my shit and hair and all. At the same time it's neat to live in a separated reality from the people thinking that "In my opinion the ICE unrest is a smoke screen." The federal gov disarmed a protestor and executed them on the street. That doesn't seem like a "distraction"... that seems like -the literal thing that you're worrying about- happening in a highly obvious and direct way. As a left-win…

> The federal gov disarmed a protestor and executed them on the street.

He was shot after disobeying lawful orders and the man who disarmed him possibly negligently discharged the victim's firearm while the other officers were wrestling him and the other officers didn't have the information that he was disarmed. This wasn't intentional, this was an accident. There is also another angle showing him kicking an ICE vehicle and breaking its tail light the week before. This is no bystander. It is delusional to believe that it is possible to deport millions of convicted criminal illegal aliens without an incident while thousands interfere with police operations as they deport criminals. The bills being passed are far more relevant to Americans' civil liberties because they make the average American who is NOT currently a criminal into one for possession and manufacture of plastic and metal parts. This is an untenable position.

> some of us are out here being physically assaulted by the state

Yeah, I'm not belligerently protesting the deportation of illegal aliens.

More nuanced discussion: "Did ICE Just Murder Someone For Carrying A Gun?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCiaqJvbW_A

Re: Grid: Free, local-first, browser-based 3D printing/CNC/laser slicer

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I bought a bambu p1s recently and it can be used entirely offline. You can import models to orcaslicer (open source), do your slicing, and export the g code file to SD card. If you want to skip the SD card, block the printer's mac/ip address at the firewall and set up WiFi. Then send the print directly from orcaslicer. That being said, my gut says bambu is going to slowly require a persistent connection to the cloud…

Yes, you can use the P1S offline, but they've done everything possible to make it hard: crappy micro sd interface without the ability to use folders, USB plug absolutely inaccessible (see if you can even find it) and then, once you've found it it turns out that there is absolutely no way to use it to print with. They push you towards their closed source plugin 'for your benefit'. Fuck that stuff. There is absolutely…

I'm curious - which firmware version are you on? Just yesterday I got confused when I accidentally entered the "cache" folder (Handy sliced models?) on my P1S, so it looks like my machine definitely supports folders at least. I am located in the UK and bought it late 2025.

AFAIK, the hidden internal USB port is intended to charge a phone/other device used as a "touch controller".

I don't like their closed-source control and the way they've managed local integrations, but I also want to accelerate making things with a printer that just "prints" (akin to how some will buy into the Apple ecosystem for something that "just works"). I've now sold my previous open-source Klipper/Mainsail printer which I heavily modified.

If/when Bambu makes their ecosystem unbearable for me, I will switch away (probably to a Prusa). For now, the ease of use of the machine has led to much more things being made as I can trust it to work accurately and reliably.

Re: Grid: Free, local-first, browser-based 3D printing/CNC/laser slicer

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post #108

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I did not criticize your app. I offered that your blanket statement that "The browser is an extremely poor medium to deliver applications" does not comport with my experience. And it looks like I nailed it, too. It is the nature of your application. Had you said "the browser does not offer a real time API which I need for my application", there would have been nothing to say. This is obviously true. Even native deskt…

Ah, the true Scotsman version of 'not that kind of app'.

Well, there are apps that you can only do native, not in a browser, we agree on that. But I also think that the browser is actually providing a very compelling standard OS with batteries included for many kinds of applications, and now there is even webGPU. I am currently building a local-first interactive theorem prover with built-in IDE as a PWA, in TypeScript, and you have really cool tools you can use as a foundation for something like this, such as ProseMirror and IndexedDB. Of course the raw prover can also be run from the command line via node. Claude Code is also very useful in this environment. Yes, different browsers are an issue, but so much works on all modern ones.

Re: Grid: Free, local-first, browser-based 3D printing/CNC/laser slicer

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The democrats can eat my shit and hair and all. At the same time it's neat to live in a separated reality from the people thinking that "In my opinion the ICE unrest is a smoke screen." The federal gov disarmed a protestor and executed them on the street. That doesn't seem like a "distraction"... that seems like -the literal thing that you're worrying about- happening in a highly obvious and direct way. As a left-win…

> The federal gov disarmed a protestor and executed them on the street. He was shot after disobeying lawful orders and the man who disarmed him possibly negligently discharged the victim's firearm while the other officers were wrestling him and the other officers didn't have the information that he was disarmed. This wasn't intentional, this was an accident. There is also another angle showing him kicking an ICE vehi…

I like that. Keep up the good work.

Re: Grid: Free, local-first, browser-based 3D printing/CNC/laser slicer

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You mean like PCBs? KiCad is pretty popular.

KiCAD has pretty awful UX though. I've tried all of the FOSS PCB design apps except LibrePCB (on my to-do list) and Horizon EDA is definitely the one I'd recommend (even though it also has a fair amount of UX oddities it's much better than KiCAD). DesignSpark PCB is also decent - only minor UX mistakes like warping the mouse when you zoom.

Eye of the beholder, I suppose. I like KiCAD's UI much more than Altium (but to be fair, I hate Altium).

Re: Grid: Free, local-first, browser-based 3D printing/CNC/laser slicer

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Washington state lawmakers, led by Democrats, have introduced bills like HB 2320 and HB 2321. HB 2320 is sponsored solely by Rep. Osman Salahuddin (D-48th District), focusing on prohibiting 3D printers and CNC machines for untraceable firearms. HB 2321, pushing printer DRM requirements, similarly lacks Republican co-sponsors based on available details. In Washington where this is going on in the state House Democrats…

The democrats can eat my shit and hair and all. At the same time it's neat to live in a separated reality from the people thinking that "In my opinion the ICE unrest is a smoke screen." The federal gov disarmed a protestor and executed them on the street. That doesn't seem like a "distraction"... that seems like -the literal thing that you're worrying about- happening in a highly obvious and direct way. As a left-win…

Same video, two movies. Presentation, pace, timing, narrative all designed to reinforce your existing biases, even if you aren't aware of them. You look and think you've seen. You're nudged and put into a bubble with people offering up comments that validate and verify what you think, and what you know, and what you believe.

Anything outside your bubble is framed as a conspiracy theory or the ramblings of deluded, even evil people on "the other side".

The media streams you watch end up being a rorschach test - carefully crafted and deployed to different bubbles, A/B tested, cynically manipulative and deliberately framed and intended to evoke specific reactions. The language is carefully used so two people can watch the exact same clip or newscast or soundbite and hear what sounds like a reasonable reinforcement of what they already believe. Sometimes things will even technically be 100% factual, but it'll be just as manipulative and as much of a "lie" as if they'd made it up entirely.

I don't think bubbles is the right paradigm, anymore - these are deep, deep pits, and every piece of media that reinforces your model, where that model is the one intended for you to have by some of the big influences, brings you another shovelful deeper, and you've got to put that much more effort in to dig your way out.

Trying to talk to anyone who hasn't worked their own way out of digging out of a media pit ends up being a team sport or a tribalistic conflict - the facts and the stories don't mesh, and if you're 100% certain of your facts, and your "opposition" concedes to the facts, then you're going to think your story is the right one. The cognitive dissonance and the effort required to update your model to match reality - to recognize the manipulative, malignant influences deploying these conflicting storylines, and to figure out how to identify what actual reality is - is too much for most people, and way too much for any casual online interactions.

Not sure how you fix that without forbidding some actors from doing what they do at a legislative level, and that gets into hairy freedom of speech territory.

Re: Grid: Free, local-first, browser-based 3D printing/CNC/laser slicer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The democrats can eat my shit and hair and all. At the same time it's neat to live in a separated reality from the people thinking that "In my opinion the ICE unrest is a smoke screen." The federal gov disarmed a protestor and executed them on the street. That doesn't seem like a "distraction"... that seems like -the literal thing that you're worrying about- happening in a highly obvious and direct way. As a left-win…

Same video, two movies. Presentation, pace, timing, narrative all designed to reinforce your existing biases, even if you aren't aware of them. You look and think you've seen. You're nudged and put into a bubble with people offering up comments that validate and verify what you think, and what you know, and what you believe. Anything outside your bubble is framed as a conspiracy theory or the ramblings of deluded, ev…

While that may be true, the video I saw was murder.

And it’s not a bubble or a pit anymore, it’s an island, a nation of their own mind.

Consumerists till the end.

Re: Grid: Free, local-first, browser-based 3D printing/CNC/laser slicer

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The democrats can eat my shit and hair and all. At the same time it's neat to live in a separated reality from the people thinking that "In my opinion the ICE unrest is a smoke screen." The federal gov disarmed a protestor and executed them on the street. That doesn't seem like a "distraction"... that seems like -the literal thing that you're worrying about- happening in a highly obvious and direct way. As a left-win…

> The federal gov disarmed a protestor and executed them on the street. He was shot after disobeying lawful orders and the man who disarmed him possibly negligently discharged the victim's firearm while the other officers were wrestling him and the other officers didn't have the information that he was disarmed. This wasn't intentional, this was an accident. There is also another angle showing him kicking an ICE vehi…

He was shot while being dog piled by 6 officers dude. There was no way for him to defend himself when they already had taken his weapon. It was murder. Was he intentionally out there protesting? Yeah, he probably was. Was he filming ICE and giving them verbal hell? Absolutely he was. Was he interfering? He absolutely wasn’t. They just let him get under their skin because they aren’t professional. They murdered him because they got scared that he had a gun. One of the officers was on video saying “I got the gun…” sighing as he stood up.

So yeah, tensions are high. Minnesotans feel violated. ICE sees a battleground, not a state. That’s an issue.

”There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people” - Admiral Adama

Re: Grid: Free, local-first, browser-based 3D printing/CNC/laser slicer

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Yes, you can use the P1S offline, but they've done everything possible to make it hard: crappy micro sd interface without the ability to use folders, USB plug absolutely inaccessible (see if you can even find it) and then, once you've found it it turns out that there is absolutely no way to use it to print with. They push you towards their closed source plugin 'for your benefit'. Fuck that stuff. There is absolutely…

I'm curious - which firmware version are you on? Just yesterday I got confused when I accidentally entered the "cache" folder (Handy sliced models?) on my P1S, so it looks like my machine definitely supports folders at least. I am located in the UK and bought it late 2025. AFAIK, the hidden internal USB port is intended to charge a phone/other device used as a "touch controller". I don't like their closed-source cont…

Yes, this is the dilemma right now. I have 30+ prusa's and 43 Bambu's and another dozen or so K1s. They all have their quirks, weaknesses and strong sides but for sheer reliability and volume you can't beat the Bambus. But for development work I'd much rather have the oldest bedslinger that I have because it is so incredibly precise, even if it is terribly slow as well. K1 I would not recommend for anything, too fragile and too irregular from one machine to another, each is a different printer. To get to that level of lack of consistency must have taken some real thinking.
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