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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Larry and David Ellison have been buying media outlets and those media outlets have started spiking (or delaying, editing, etc) stories that look bad for Trump. It's not that you don't have access at all, it's that these specific platforms are starting to suppress it. This is the notable example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_CECOT

> It's not that you don't have access at all, it's that these specific platforms are starting to suppress it. This is the notable example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_CECOT The 60 Minutes Episode on CECOT aired on Jan 18 and it is also on CBS News' website: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-deported-venezuelans-endur...

It got delayed, didn't it? In the meantime the news cycle moved onto Trump's intervention in Venezuela and even greater ICE violence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_CECOT#Broadcast_postpon...

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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post #59

The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.

I've never in my life used TikTok. Can you please point to a specific article, news source, journal, any piece of information that is legal in the United States that I don't have easy access to so I can see what I'm missing?

I've never in my life used TikTok. Can you please point to a specific article, news source, journal, any piece of information that is legal in the United States that I don't have easy access to so I can see what I'm missing?

Whataboutism. You presumably know full well what the parent was describing, but if not:

TikTok presents users with feeds of videos. For many users, this is their primary news source.

An American oligarch and party loyalist now has de facto control of the app. Therefore, the regime has the capability to shape the narrative by boosting or hiding videos from the feed (whether or not they are doing so is an open question).

Could users still hypothetically find the same information elsewhere? Sure. But if this app is their primary source of information, would they even know they should bother doing so?

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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I hope for the good of mankind, all sides of politics unite against deplatforming and oppressing opposing viewpoints. It's sad that certain topics (anti-ICE, Epstein) neutered on a social media platform, but this went on for years when the politics were reversed. Let everyone have their say, I say.

I don't know. I think that over the years, bad faith actors in the world of geopolitics have taken advantage of this in a very nefarious way in order to sow chaos, bad-faith/purposefully-inaccurate "talking points" and capture the hearts and minds of the ignorant, the stupid, and the willfully delusional masses who are desperate to cling to a conspiracy if it fits their worldview which is in turn reinforced by said b…

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Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.

tiktok always censored, it's just now it censors anti-Trump content instead of anti-CCP content [1]

both are bad, I liked when tiktok was supposed to be just "banned". it's always been a tool for repressive governments

[1] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-28/tiktok-huawei-surveil...

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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> I’m not saying this ICE censorship is good I hope not because it’s bad and that’s really all that matters in this conversation. And nitpicking whether or not there are other avenues for information is completely besides the point. I don’t even really understand what point you’re trying to make. If you think this is bad, then say it’s bad and we shouldn’t be ok with it. Saying “I’m not saying it’s good” then muddyin…

> And nitpicking whether or not there are other avenues for information is completely besides the point That was literally the argument I was responding to and talking about.

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Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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post #59

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I've never in my life used TikTok. Can you please point to a specific article, news source, journal, any piece of information that is legal in the United States that I don't have easy access to so I can see what I'm missing?

It's not about legality, its about scrolling and recommendations. Young people see stuff by other young people by default. Its been a conservative/zionist talking point for years now that "the youth are getting brainwashed by tiktok", and Ellison in particular seems to be in the "I've gone hard right due to the latest Israel conflict" camp. So of course they're not being subtle about it.

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Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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post #87

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Why is it always a blame game? What dos that accomplish? There’s no “good guy” administrations. There’s just realpolitik. The current iteration of ICE is an outgrowth of the Obama admin, as is the problem with billionaires in politics. Biden put a target on Maduro's head before leaving office (continuing to fill a multi-administration powder keg re: Venezuela). Trump just had the panache to brazenly do the deed inste…

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Maybe. I just find most “which administration really started XYZ” discussions are a way for people to feel better about their affiliations. Because ‘cause’ and ‘effect’ are continuous and not an inherent property of things, it is always possible to construct a causal chain that happens to start wherever convenient for your rhetorical purposes.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about legality, its about scrolling and recommendations. Young people see stuff by other young people by default. Its been a conservative/zionist talking point for years now that "the youth are getting brainwashed by tiktok", and Ellison in particular seems to be in the "I've gone hard right due to the latest Israel conflict" camp. So of course they're not being subtle about it.

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Bro, conservative talking points have existed since before Jan 2024.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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> but not that fast Why not? All the tech was already put in place by China. All that the U.S. had to do was change the filtered words.

What words were China filtering? I've never seen reports of censorship like this on TikTok before Ellison bought it.

On WeChat and Douyin (chinese tiktok), good luck mentioning things like:

the cultural revolution famine the great leap forward Taiwanese independence Hong Kong self governance democracy human rights Falun Gong Uyghur people free speech KMT party Chiang Kai-shek

and that's just off the top of my head. there are likely hundreds of others.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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post #43

Anecdotal: uploading a video of original songs with political/protest lyrics will have random background noises added to the audio track, making the songs audio seem amateurish. Edit: here’s a link to an example https://bsky.app/profile/seaniebyrne.bsky.social/post/3mby7j...

>This author has chosen to make their posts visible only to people who are signed in. Welp, guess I didn't want to learn about that anyway

Sorry. Thats fixed now.
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