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Celebrities say they are being censored by TikTok after speaking out against ICE

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Celebrities need to stop giving their sht to these SM companies and used Federated social media. So they can own their product and not have to worry about being censored for being anti-government.

Which is hilarious sentence now because this government so pro free speech!!! sarcasm*

But seriously this is something that if my main gig was to create music or some art form, I wouldn't want to be on a corp run platform. I would want to own it myself and the all that data.

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> He is incredibly good at manipulating public perception to change opinions and get what he wants Sorry but you are suffering from some kind of delusion here. He's not manipulating public perception in any way that is beneficial to him or the US. He's crashing his own public perception (which was already in the gutter to all but the sycophants and blind loyalists) and taking the US' reputation with him

This is the one thing you shouldn't deny especially if you don't like Trump. “There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.” ― Lao Tzu

Oh I don't underestimate him. It's been obvious he's dangerous from day 1. But being dangerous does not preclude being (seen to be) a fool.

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I recently saw an interesting explanation. The point was, that capitalism is not (just) an economical system. It's a system of power in which capital can (and almost always does) overrule everything else. If you take this stance, capitalism is to blame for all the good and bad things that happen in the capitalist country. Democracy is just the way how capital rules.

> It's a system of power in which capital can (and almost always does) overrule everything else. ... Democracy is just the way how capital rules. That’s a contradiction.

Depends on how you understand democracy.

It's a contradiction only if you understand democracy as a theoretical ideal. Practical democracies, as implemented in western countries, in recent decades proven themselves to be completely controllable by capital, both the democratic elites and democratic masses.

I think we should rather go with practical outcome not the stated theoretical ideas. It's also a good way of evaluating communism and probably other systems.

Re: Celebrities say they are being censored by TikTok after speaking out against ICE

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> Really? That's why they have vests that say "POLICE FEDERAL AGENT" front and back ? The paramilitaries that executed Pretti are all wearing street clothing, and all wearing different clothing. They look like a mob. > Dangerous people that could identify their faces and kill their families in retaliation. Well that's convenient, because it also allows them to kill protestors or their families without any consequence…

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> On top of which they have matching ICE issued vest with inscriptions.

It's a fascist theme to have paramilitaries not wearing uniforms. See for example the mukhabarat in Syria. It makes them more intimidating, because they look undisciplined, and adds confusion to protestors as to whether they are dealing with someone who is part of the legal system. Why on earth would they not be issued with uniforms?

> Yes, accidents like this will happen when you shove law enforcement officers with a gun on you.

Pretti did not shove any "law enforcement officers". The first physical contact is a shove on Pretti by one of them.

BBC did a frame by frame analysis: the first shove happens at approx 1:00 in this video. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/l0057wmt/bbc-verify-an...

If you disagree, please provide a source.

The first time they seem to be aware that he has a firearm is when they disarm him, and the execution happens after that, so I don't see how that is relevant.

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What did he get out of the Greenland deal that the US didn’t have Jan 19, 2025?

I am not the NATO chief.

Then tell us what powers does the Dutch NATO chief has to make a deal in name of Greenland and Denmark.

Trump got empty hands, he got totally played by the nice words of Rutte.

Edit: Your conversation is really mind boggling:

"Trump got a great deal on Greenland!"

"What deal?"

"How would I know?!?!?!"

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> On top of which they have matching ICE issued vest with inscriptions. It's a fascist theme to have paramilitaries not wearing uniforms. See for example the mukhabarat in Syria. It makes them more intimidating, because they look undisciplined, and adds confusion to protestors as to whether they are dealing with someone who is part of the legal system. Why on earth would they not be issued with uniforms? > Yes, accid…

>they disarm him, and the execution happens after that,

You're leaving the part out where a gunshot is heard right before they "execute" him. The officers with their fingers on the trigger pointed at him during detainment, got scared of that gunshot and jumped on the trigger by accident. It's an unfortunate accident but not an execution. Read up the legal definition of execution. This is not it.

Re: Celebrities say they are being censored by TikTok after speaking out against ICE

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This is quite out of character for a lawn mower; lawn mowers shouldn't care.

Is the lawn mower already in control of TikTok?

As of a few days ago, yes: https://newsroom.tiktok.com/announcement-from-the-new-tiktok...

Only TikTok in the U.S., though; everywhere else it's Bytedance still.

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>You have to nip it in the bud before it grows up. Sure, but if you use fascist tactics to fight fascism, are you not a fascist yourself? And people conveniently focus only on the symptoms(rise of fascism) but not on the main cause that leads to it. Like Hitler didn't just randomly get to power one day out of nowhere because the average German citizen was living such a good life. He was just one of the symptoms to a…

What fascist tactics did they use to get rid of Hitler? If you're referring to his time in prison, he was put there because he staged a putsch. Beyond that, much of the establishment and industry tried to work with him using a softly, softly approach. They thought they could steer him, temper him, leverage his popularity for their own ends. Of course, that didn't work out for them

>What fascist tactics did they use to get rid of Hitler?

  November 1921 (Munich): During a speech at an NSDAP rally in a beer hall, an unknown assailant fired shots at Hitler from the crowd amid a melee, but he escaped unharmed. 

  1923 (Thuringia): An unidentified person attempted to shoot Hitler during a rally, but Nazi supporters outnumbered opponents, forcing the attacker to flee. 

  1923 (Memmingen): Another unknown individual tried to assassinate Hitler with a rifle but retreated when confronted by his followers. 

  July 15, 1932 (Munich): An assailant fired shots at Hitler and SA leader Ernst Röhm while they dined at Cafe Heck, but both were unhurt. 

  1932 (Nuremberg): A bomb was planted in the lobby of Hitler's hotel, but it was discovered and removed before detonation. 

  1932 (Berlin and Munich): Two additional attempts occurred, one involving potential poisoning at the Hotel Kaiserhof in Berlin (where Hitler and staff fell ill after a meal, suspected to be deliberate contamination), though details are limited and perpetrators unidentified.
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