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Re: Software Pump and Dump

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Post by fartfeatures »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #78
bambax wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah; I did not quite understand GasTown (although I like Steve's writing style); I absolutely do not understand Moltbook or its purpose; I'm not sure I understand the point of OpenClaw -- in the sense that its benefits are not immediately obvious, while its dangers are making big red flashes and fire sirens. Often when you don't understand something you feel stupid; but sometimes the reason you don't understand is b…

> I'm not sure I understand the point of OpenClaw -- in the sense that its benefits are not immediately obvious, while its dangers are making big red flashes and fire sirens. I only skimmed the OpenClaw post, but unless I completely misunderstood the README in their GitHub repo, to me the benefits are stupidly obvious, and I was actually planning to look at it closer over the weekend. The value proposition I saw is:…

You might get a kick out of Matrix if you haven't tried it yet. https://github.com/spantaleev/matrix-docker-ansible-deploy is probably still the best way to get it and the bridges you need setup. It is far from perfect but decent.

Re: Software Pump and Dump

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Post by [deleted] »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #78
bambax wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah; I did not quite understand GasTown (although I like Steve's writing style); I absolutely do not understand Moltbook or its purpose; I'm not sure I understand the point of OpenClaw -- in the sense that its benefits are not immediately obvious, while its dangers are making big red flashes and fire sirens. Often when you don't understand something you feel stupid; but sometimes the reason you don't understand is b…

> I'm not sure I understand the point of OpenClaw -- in the sense that its benefits are not immediately obvious, while its dangers are making big red flashes and fire sirens. I only skimmed the OpenClaw post, but unless I completely misunderstood the README in their GitHub repo, to me the benefits are stupidly obvious, and I was actually planning to look at it closer over the weekend. The value proposition I saw is:…

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Re: Software Pump and Dump

#114

Post by Uehreka »

afishhh wrote: post #91
Uehreka wrote: post #85

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You found it! Yeah the 4th version of the browser is in Haskell and is only a couple hours in, so it’s nowhere near done. The Go version achieved Acid3 compliance in 7 hours, but I expect this one to take a lot longer since Haskell is a bit more difficult to work with and there’s probably less Haskell in the training dataset.

> The Go version Where can I find the Go version?

I’d been archiving/scrubbing each one so that the next assistant wouldn’t be able to use the previous branch as a guide, but since you asked, I pushed the archive of the Go one, feel free to rip it apart: https://github.com/chrisuehlinger/viberowser-go

Re: Software Pump and Dump

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Post by afishhh »

Uehreka wrote: post #114
afishhh wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Go version Where can I find the Go version?

I’d been archiving/scrubbing each one so that the next assistant wouldn’t be able to use the previous branch as a guide, but since you asked, I pushed the archive of the Go one, feel free to rip it apart: https://github.com/chrisuehlinger/viberowser-go

https://github.com/chrisuehlinger/viberowser-go/blob/93f2638...

Please stop using Acid3 as some holy grail that lets you say you built a browser.

I have no idea how/if this passes Acid3 but this is not inline layout.

Re: Software Pump and Dump

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Post by askl »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #57
1dom wrote: post #45

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I did a lot of postgraduate research around crypto from 2011 - 2016. There are a lot of parallels, and your message adds to them. "x is different because we can actually do useful stuff with it" is what every x enthusiast deep in an x bubble or pump n dump says about x. When the next big tech bubble comes along in 10 - 15 years, there will be people saying exactly what you just said: "NextBigTech you can actually use…

No, AI is different because we're actively doing useful stuff with it. It's not "this will replace x soon", it's "I don't x anymore because it would be crazy not to use AI for this, which is what I do on a daily basis already."

Just like cryptobros will tell you they are doing useful stuff with their latest shitcoin. It's exactly the same thing.

Re: Software Pump and Dump

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Post by enopod_ »

postalcoder wrote: post #30

The top three stories on hn right now: 1. ▲ Moltbook (moltbook.com) 538 points by teej 8 hours ago | hide | 293 comments 2. ▲ Software Pump and Dump (tautvilas.lt) 108 points by brisky 5 hours ago | hide | 25 comments 3. ▲ OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again (openclaw.ai) 256 points by ed 6 hours ago | hide | 110 comments This is art.

TIL about all that stuff, Moltbook, Openclaw, Gas Town, and I don't get it anymore. It's too much. Forums for chatbots with their own religion but its actually a crypto scam and vibecoded hypesoftware to scam people with sh*tcoins because yolo and whatnot. I'm out.

Re: Software Pump and Dump

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Post by Bishonen88 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #78
bambax wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah; I did not quite understand GasTown (although I like Steve's writing style); I absolutely do not understand Moltbook or its purpose; I'm not sure I understand the point of OpenClaw -- in the sense that its benefits are not immediately obvious, while its dangers are making big red flashes and fire sirens. Often when you don't understand something you feel stupid; but sometimes the reason you don't understand is b…

> I'm not sure I understand the point of OpenClaw -- in the sense that its benefits are not immediately obvious, while its dangers are making big red flashes and fire sirens. I only skimmed the OpenClaw post, but unless I completely misunderstood the README in their GitHub repo, to me the benefits are stupidly obvious, and I was actually planning to look at it closer over the weekend. The value proposition I saw is:…

At work we were joking that people will use LLM to create fancy-looking documents which will then be parsed through LLMs back to be concise and to the point. With LLMs handling the sending of messages as well, this makes the whole concept will be even more efficient.

I can just imagine that many people won't be using stuff like this to automate copy-pasting etc. but literally let LLM's handle conversations for them (which will in turn be read by other LLMs).

"You free to chat?" "Always. I'm a bot." "…Same."

This post has been written by a human :)

Re: Software Pump and Dump

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Post by mr-ron »

1dom wrote: post #98
jaffee wrote: post #92

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Internet -> Obvious value, more efficient communication, knowledge sharing, transactions etc. AI -> Value is very obvious to me as a developer. Blockchain -> ? What is the actual value? Something about decentralized finance and not having to trust anyone? And the tradeoff is every transaction costs $10 or more. It was always a dubious proposition with its "value" driven by speculative investment which fueled the hype…

You see that you're assessing AI from the depth of the AI bubble and coming to the same conclusion about AI as people who assess crypto from the depths of a crypto bubble came to, right? The dotcom bubble was due to all the useless, speculative stuff people were doing with the internet, not the useful bits you referred to that are still around which we use today. The AI bubble is coming from all the useless, speculat…

The argument for more datacenters is 2 fold:

- Likely to be a zero sum winner. The Players that have invested now, do not want to be left behind.

- The improvement and capabilities in agents continues to grow. There is no reason to believe this will slow down any time soon

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