Right now this looks less like "AI for healthcare" and more like a very polished way to scare (or falsely reassure) people
I let ChatGPT analyze a decade of my Apple Watch data, then I called my doctor
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Re: I let ChatGPT analyze a decade of my Apple Watch data, then I called my doctor
#112Health metrics are absolutely tarnished by a lack of proper context. Unsurprisingly, it turns out that you can't reliably take a concept as broad as health and reduce it to a number. We see the same arguments over and over with body fat percentages, vo2 max estimates, BMI, lactate thresholds, resting heart rate, HRV, and more. These are all useful metrics, but it's important to consider them in the proper context tha…
The problem is that the product itself invites the wrong expectation
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#113I dunno, if the Apple Watch said he had a vo2max of 30, that probably means he can’t run a mile in less than 12 minutes or so. He’s probably not at all healthy…
If Apple watch said anything about that it's probably wrong. It can't accurately measure VO2 max. Incidentally I got rid of mine recently. It is bliss not having one. Also VO2 max is a crappy measure of fitness. I apparently had "average" VO2 max after a treadmill test. I can hike 50km with a 2km elevation gain in one go and not die. People with higher VO2 max I know, dropped out.
During a 50 km hike you are not anywhere close to your VO2 max, so it makes sense that the VO2 max is not predictive for that distance.
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#114A year or so ago, I fed my wife's blood work results into chatgpt and it came back with a terrifying diagnosis. Even after a lot of back and forth it stuck to its guns. We went to a specialist who performed some additional tests and explained that the condition cannot be diagnosed with just the original blood work and said that she did not have the condition. The whole thing was a borderline traumatic ordeal that I'm…
Stories like yours are why I'm skeptical of these "health insight" products as currently shipped. Visualization, explanation, question-generation - great. Acting like an interpreter of incomplete medical data without a strong refusal mode is genuinely dangerous
Re: I let ChatGPT analyze a decade of my Apple Watch data, then I called my doctor
#115I dunno, if the Apple Watch said he had a vo2max of 30, that probably means he can’t run a mile in less than 12 minutes or so. He’s probably not at all healthy…
Apple Watch is pretty poor at estimating VO2 max and it seems to be more correlated with how often you record exercises with said watch than with your actual health. For example I watched mine climb slowly as I prepared for my football season (beyond 50), then after the season started I I ended up playing and training just as frequently but without wearing the watch. After a few weeks (of me training and playing hard…
This is really more of an "utdoor run while wearing the watch" proxy than a true fitness measure
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#116The author is a healthy person but the computer program still gave him a failing grade of F. It is irresponsible for these companies to release broken tools that can cause so much fear in real people. They are treating serious medical advice like it is just a video game or a toy. Real users should not be the ones testing these dangerous products.
And real users shouldn't be the ones discovering these edge cases through fear
Re: I let ChatGPT analyze a decade of my Apple Watch data, then I called my doctor
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I'd go so far to say this is probably the case for most people. Your average person is in really poor fitness-shape but just fine health-shape. Modern medicine has failed to move into the era of subtlety and small problems and many people suffer as a result. Fitness nerds and general non-scientists fill the gap poorly so we get a ton of guessing and anecdotal evidence and likely a whole lot of bad advice. Doctors wo…
> Doctors won't say there's a problem until you're SICK and usually pretty late in the process when there's not a lot of room to make improvements. As someone who is fit and active,in their 60s with zero obvious symptoms, but is nonetheless on cholesterol and blood pressure medication, this isn't true (in the UK, at least)
One of the things the NHS does surprisingly well, and is only really possible because it's a completely vertically integrated system, is population-level preventative medicine. Distributing insulin and salbutamol. Screening for various sorts of cancer. Cholesterol and BP checks. Encouraging people to stop smoking.
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#118I dunno, if the Apple Watch said he had a vo2max of 30, that probably means he can’t run a mile in less than 12 minutes or so. He’s probably not at all healthy…
> he had a vo2max of 30, that probably means he can’t run a mile in less than 12 minutes or so. He’s probably not at all healthy… Health and fitness correlate but are different things. VO2max is more about fitness than about health. Also, looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VO2_max#Reference_values , 30 is about average for men in their 40s/50s, which, form a quick google, I estimate is the author’s age range.
Fitness correlates with health though. Just because you don't have any conditions does not mean that you are healthy. And inability to meet certain fitness tests is correlated with lower health.
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#119I can't wait until it starts recommending signing me up for an OpenAI personalized multi-vitamin® supscription
"You're absolutely right! I was mistaken about mercury and lead being essential minerals, and adding them to your supplements. Sorry about that!"
Re: I let ChatGPT analyze a decade of my Apple Watch data, then I called my doctor
#120A year or so ago, I fed my wife's blood work results into chatgpt and it came back with a terrifying diagnosis. Even after a lot of back and forth it stuck to its guns. We went to a specialist who performed some additional tests and explained that the condition cannot be diagnosed with just the original blood work and said that she did not have the condition. The whole thing was a borderline traumatic ordeal that I'm…
On the flip side, i had some pain in my chest... RUQ (right upper quadrant for those medical folk). On the way to the hospital, ChatGPT was pretty confident it was a issue with my gallbladder due to me having a fatty meal for lunch (but it was delicious). After an extended wait time to be seen, they didnt ask about anything like that, and at the end they were like anything else to add, added it in about ChatGPT / Gal…
after reading your comment, my perception is mixed