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Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by mrexroad »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #108
mrexroad wrote: post #36

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Those folks tend to have a confounding number of firearms, rather than just one. Not that it necessarily shifts the eventual outcome to your scenario.

number of firearms is moot without 1) the ammo to use it, and 2) enough bodies to use them. I'd rather have 10 people with 10 guns than 3 people with 30 guns, esp. if of different calibers and configurations and in a collapse situation I'd rather have excessive water purification and just enough firearms, than excessive firearms and little to no water purification

I don’t disagree.

With thy said, I’ve had a few enthusiast friends the years, and for most of them the amount of ammo was more staggering than the number of firearms. Most also had a fairly well throughout strategy around what the shtf related arms should be chambered in as well as reloading presses. Further, that made sure their trusted group of friends were familiar with their shtf firearms. To be fair, the most excessive of these friends also had an equally excessive build out for water storage.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by throwawayq3423 »

RRWagner wrote: post #63
throwawayq3423 wrote: post #45

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> History seems to indicate that in the absence of law, those with the most people inside a fortified structure and position are the most likely to survive. Source?

Every Roman fortification, medieval city & castle? Clarifying, compared to a single villager with a sword or even two.

Why is every fortified civilization gone and their remnants a tourist attraction then at this point?

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by koonsolo »

anticodon wrote: post #102
koonsolo wrote: post #89

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Honest question: why do you comment when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about? You make all kinds of false claims, and then people who actually know have to correct you.

I have information from the first hands because half of my family lives in Ukraine. Where do you get your information? From CNN? Can you show an Ukrainian law that allows men to freely cross the border?

You skipped the part where I said I work with Ukrainians? I work with them on a weekly basis for 13 years.

> Can you show an Ukrainian law that allows men to freely cross the border?

Did I say he crossed it legally? He crossed it illegally of course, which according to you was impossible due to guards with automatic rifles, drones and anti-personnel mines.

> half of my family lives in Ukraine.

My bet: You haven't spoken with them in years, because they cut connections due to your political views. Just as I will now.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by hackable_sand »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #106
hackable_sand wrote: post #90

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I like this idea. I would like to extend it by providing bits of advice on how to handle the passing and how loved ones can move on with confidence.

Mine is very pragmatic, I let the emotional part to the ones remaining. I just want to pake sure that financially and administratively they are fine - this I can do.

I respect that.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by user205738 »

throw0101c wrote: post #87
abc123abc123 wrote: post #83

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Let politicians fight and die in their own wars. If russia "visited" my country, I'd follow it with a drink in my hand from the bahamas. No piece of dirt or earth is worth dying for, ever.

> No piece of dirt or earth is worth dying for, ever. If no one ever defends the dirt, the pieces of earth where you can enjoy a drink in peace and freedom will shrink over time as the aggressors will continue to gobble up land because of the lack of defending. They keep moving forward, you keep moving back, until you have no where to retreat to.

Come back to this comment in a few years and think about whether something significant has changed for those people who did not sacrifice their lives for a meaningless battle.

People are more important than the state. If they are not ready to defend him, why should they be forced? You can offer money or other valuables in return, such as fame, a pension, or a position, but if a person doesn't want to, why should they do it?

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by calenti »

xeromal wrote: post #38
RRWagner wrote: post #34

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Do many people think that with their single assault rifle or other weap9n, that they would successfully defend against one or more truckloads of vandals looking to steal whatever they have stored up "self-sufficiently"? History seems to indicate that in the absence of law, those with the most people inside a fortified structure and position are the most likely to survive.

Funny the person you replied to mentioned an antique rifle and then you ranted about assault weapons while censoring yourself? Rifles are great for many things aside from roving bandits. First thing is that hunting is an excellent capability to have and rifles are much easier to use than bows. Another thing is the deterrence one provides. If you're moving around the end times with just your fists, you're an easier ta…

That also includes knowing how to process game. A dead deer or a dead rabbit has a small window between being a dead creature and a toxic mess. If you're gonna plug animals learn how to make proper use of them.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by benterix »

abc123abc123 wrote: post #83
Scrapemist wrote: post #13

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They are proud people who want to defend their country.

Let politicians fight and die in their own wars. If russia "visited" my country, I'd follow it with a drink in my hand from the bahamas. No piece of dirt or earth is worth dying for, ever.

You have a very romantic view of Russian soldiers.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by rsync »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #118
rsync wrote: post #47

I have a local kiwix box that serves the entire english wikipedia (with pictures) as well as the DIY stackexchange: https://kiwix.org/en/applications/

how big is the wikipedia?

I see:

  119265903349 Aug 24 09:47 wikipedia_en_all_maxi_2025-08.zim
So ... ~111 GB including pictures ...

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by throw0101c »

user205738 wrote: post #115
throw0101c wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No piece of dirt or earth is worth dying for, ever. If no one ever defends the dirt, the pieces of earth where you can enjoy a drink in peace and freedom will shrink over time as the aggressors will continue to gobble up land because of the lack of defending. They keep moving forward, you keep moving back, until you have no where to retreat to.

Come back to this comment in a few years and think about whether something significant has changed for those people who did not sacrifice their lives for a meaningless battle. People are more important than the state. If they are not ready to defend him, why should they be forced? You can offer money or other valuables in return, such as fame, a pension, or a position, but if a person doesn't want to, why should they…

> Come back to this comment in a few years and think about whether something significant has changed for those people who did not sacrifice their lives for a meaningless battle.

My family is from Eastern Europe: if people had not fought "meaningless" battles then the land would have been ruled by genocidal maniacs. As it stand my grandmother almost ended up in an oven.

My very existence is the result of the battles having meaning, that people fighting matters.

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