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2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

tantivy wrote: post #50
ltbarcly3 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what we should do, it's very hard to determine what minimizes harm and maximizes benefits at a global scale. It's certainly not as simple as extremists would like to believe. Certainly it would be much (MUCH) less risky to slow warming as much as possible and maintain constant or slowly reducing CO2 levels. I think from the standpoint of predicting what will happen, my best guess is that people will use…

Electric cars are the savior of the auto industry, not of the climate. It needs to become viable for most people to get around without cars at all. The intensity of their resource consumption, both for manufacture and for infrastructure, independent of their fuel source, cannot scale up for the world population.

> Electric cars are the savior of the auto industry

You should check with Ford on that. 19B write off this year

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by eimrine »

mempko wrote: post #76
doktor2un wrote: post #26

I’d love to see the raw data.

And what will you do with the raw data? Are you trained in processing and interpreting it? How good is your math?

Climate deniers are perfectly trained for finding some weak spots in any data anytime they want. It would be better for them to be trained enough to show at least any links to any studies though. It is so hard to convince a climate denier to give at least one climate-denying source for the sake of experiencing some laugher together.

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by cco »

vaylian wrote: post #28

Whenever you hear a politician say "carbon neutral by 2050", interrupt them. The real goal is to avoid getting too far over 1.5 degrees warming. We need to avoid reaching tipping points that will cause non-recoverable damage to the earth system. The year 2050 is meaningless. Actual global average temperatures is what should be measured.

You're still hearing politicians talk about climate change? This could be an American bubble but I haven't heard talk of climate change from US politicians, or the other global leaders that filter through our news cycle, since 2023.

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by tmnvix »

parineum wrote: post #95
cryptoegorophy wrote: post #23

Is there a real practical solution to this? It seems like all proposed solutions in last 40 years are a drop in the ocean, or just a money grab scams. Only thing that really worked for such global scale is the ozone layer repair. Global warming/climate change I guess we should just accept it and adapt?

I heard about this[1] recently, essentially spurring a massive plankton bloom to capture carbon where it ends up on the sea floor and becomes future oil deposits in a few millenia. The nice thing about it is that it doesn't require global cooperation. [1] https://www.onepercentbrighter.com/p/the-no-bullshit-way-to-... Edit: I should probably link where I heard about it to give credit to someone who deserves it https:…

I was under the impression that there have been multiple large extinction events in the past caused by excessive anaerobic decomposition underwater that led to the oceans becoming swamps and giving off nasty toxic gasses.

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by bfrog »

tmnvix wrote: post #109
cryptoegorophy wrote: post #23

Is there a real practical solution to this? It seems like all proposed solutions in last 40 years are a drop in the ocean, or just a money grab scams. Only thing that really worked for such global scale is the ozone layer repair. Global warming/climate change I guess we should just accept it and adapt?

Drive less. CO2 output per person in the US (all sources including industry, etc): ~13-14,000kg Average distance driven per year per capita in the US: ~20,000km Average CO2 output of current private vehicle fleet: ~250g/km Therefore, over one third of total CO2 output per person is personal vehicle use. Considering only CO2 output due to personal choices driving has to be well over half. Most people don't - or refuse…

I guess returning to the office isn't so great. Pointy hair bosses rage everywhere.

But beyond driving less, surely eating further down the foodchain helps as well. Plants and shellfish are efficient. Cows are not. Eat fewer burgers and a few more lentils and mussels. Unless you are RFK Jr then of course please eat lots and lots of fatty cow, tallow, butter. Go full on Atkins please and follow right behind him.

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by EA-3167 »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #110
EA-3167 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The amount of aerosol you need to I next is enormous, it needs to be sprayed at an altitude higher than realistic means of injection are feasible, and it has to be done in a way that doesn’t produce so much CO2 that it defeats the point. Can you imagine an extant tech that can come close to doing that at the required scale? I can’t.

High altitude solar drone gliders that collect low level water vapor and spray it to form ice.

It would be cheaper and more practical to talk about space-based sunshields, and that’s about as practical as prayer. At the altitudes any realistic glider can reach you’d have to use sulfur aerosols and not ice, and in either case you’d need to inject gigatons per year, every year because at that altitude aerosols are very short-lived.

A realistic aircraft capable of those payloads will burn avgas, no solar craft comes close to the capability. The side effects such as a significant increase in acid rain, are not trivial either.

These are fantasies of people who cannot accept the reality of what we’re facing.

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by tmnvix »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #78
mempko wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look at the degrowth movement. There are solutions but nobody, especially the leadership, are going to like them.

Nobody has to "like" them. The centralized command and control structure is mostly in place to just force them down everyone's throats. Once we have centralized digital currency it will be a foregone conclusion

If only. Given how power and influence works currently, I would guess that those that have real control over these currencies would most likely use that power as they do now - to further their exploitation and pillaging of the earth with environmental considerations coming a distant second (or third, fourth, whatever...)

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

tmnvix wrote: post #109
cryptoegorophy wrote: post #23

Is there a real practical solution to this? It seems like all proposed solutions in last 40 years are a drop in the ocean, or just a money grab scams. Only thing that really worked for such global scale is the ozone layer repair. Global warming/climate change I guess we should just accept it and adapt?

Drive less. CO2 output per person in the US (all sources including industry, etc): ~13-14,000kg Average distance driven per year per capita in the US: ~20,000km Average CO2 output of current private vehicle fleet: ~250g/km Therefore, over one third of total CO2 output per person is personal vehicle use. Considering only CO2 output due to personal choices driving has to be well over half. Most people don't - or refuse…

This also means two thirds of emissions are not due to vehicular emissions. Let’s tackle that first, more bang for the buck?

Also - does that per capita figure include cargo? If so, how much? Does it matter if random individual takes personal Responsibility and stops driving when all those long haul trucks will still be on the road?

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by quesera »

jandrese wrote: post #89
hasley wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about poor people that live in areas in the world that will become completely uninhabitable?

Our politicians are already thinking about them, which is why they are cracking down on immigration and generating relentless propaganda demonizing refugees and asylum seekers.

Whose politicians are you referring to?

Re: 2025 was the third hottest year on record

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Post by misnome »

themafia wrote: post #102
vaylian wrote: post #28

Whenever you hear a politician say "carbon neutral by 2050", interrupt them. The real goal is to avoid getting too far over 1.5 degrees warming. We need to avoid reaching tipping points that will cause non-recoverable damage to the earth system. The year 2050 is meaningless. Actual global average temperatures is what should be measured.

> We need to avoid reaching tipping points that will cause non-recoverable damage to the earth system. Then I'd be far more worried about nuclear war than minor temperature excursions. Aside from that "non recoverable" damage happens every day. What do you think mining is? > Actual global average temperatures is what should be measured. On average it was 10 degrees Fahrenheit cooler last year than it was the previous…

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