In a lot of 3rd world and less well off countries, childcare is done by the grandparents(mostly grandmothers), I'm always surprised why this isn't true in the west. Here we have an aging population, so grandparent/grandchild ratio should be very high.
San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s generally how good governments work yes.
At some point you run out of other people’s money and have bread lines.
Re: San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k
#113In a lot of 3rd world and less well off countries, childcare is done by the grandparents(mostly grandmothers), I'm always surprised why this isn't true in the west. Here we have an aging population, so grandparent/grandchild ratio should be very high.
My guess would be that in developed countries, people are having kids older and older, so the grandparents are accordingly also older and more tired. That combined with multi-generational households being all but gone so now you're picking up and leaving off and all the kind of cooking and general housekeeping is also doubled.
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#114Subsidizing childcare helps families stay, but it doesn't address why childcare, housing, and everything else are so expensive in the first place
Even if you eliminate all other overhead costs (rent, admin, materials, insurance, etc) you are still paying for a large portion of somebody's salary.
The reason childcare feels expensive is because society has spent generations undervaluing childrearing as labor.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s generally how good governments work yes.
At some point you run out of other people’s money and have bread lines.
Re: San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k
#116In a lot of 3rd world and less well off countries, childcare is done by the grandparents(mostly grandmothers), I'm always surprised why this isn't true in the west. Here we have an aging population, so grandparent/grandchild ratio should be very high.
Combine these and it makes a lot of sense to trade a few below average valued workers for the release of many above average valued workers into the economy.
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#117In a lot of 3rd world and less well off countries, childcare is done by the grandparents(mostly grandmothers), I'm always surprised why this isn't true in the west. Here we have an aging population, so grandparent/grandchild ratio should be very high.
My brother's two boys both had kids. One of them, his wife, was going to go back to work after giving birth but had horrible feelings and cried when she took the baby to daycare after maternity leave. She quit and now stays home taking care of her baby. The other boy, his wife, also cried and was torn between going back to a job she loved but felt incredibly guilty about leaving her newborn to daycare. She was fortun…
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Am i missing the joke? ChatGPT tells me 3% of 100 is 3, not 0.18.
When I first read it I thought wait, 3% of 6 is 0.18, but then I realized no I'm a dork because 6 is the age of the kid, whereas the number 100 is written as a word hundred, hence I decided to write "HN poster responds:" with quotes around my first non-coffee aided thought because I thought it was funny. I guess I should have just made that full statement, but I do have a tendency to rather oblique communication stra…
Re: San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k
#119In a lot of 3rd world and less well off countries, childcare is done by the grandparents(mostly grandmothers), I'm always surprised why this isn't true in the west. Here we have an aging population, so grandparent/grandchild ratio should be very high.
Two factors. 1. In an institution there are more kids/adult. 2. Child care is valued below average by society. Combine these and it makes a lot of sense to trade a few below average valued workers for the release of many above average valued workers into the economy.
Capitalist dystopia summed up. "Mommy cannot see you say your first words because having mommy shove papers around is slightly more beneficial economically".
Re: San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k
#120In a lot of 3rd world and less well off countries, childcare is done by the grandparents(mostly grandmothers), I'm always surprised why this isn't true in the west. Here we have an aging population, so grandparent/grandchild ratio should be very high.
1. People have kids later, and older grandparents are less likely to be able to care for them
2. Kids moved away and left their parents in the suburbs, so they're not exactly around anyway. Also, a lot of Boomers sold their homes during Covid to cash in and moved elsewhere and/or downsized. So they might not be living in a place where you can just drop the kids off for a weekend.
3. Generally, only one of the grandparents in the Boomer generation is realistically capable of providing childcare, and that's the mom. If she's not alive anymore, you're not getting anything from your dad.