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Re: Gentoo Linux 2025 Review

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Post by drnick1 »

IshKebab wrote: post #43
WD-42 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The usual semi conspiratorial nonsense. GNOME is only unusable to clickers that are uncomfortable with any UI other than what was perfected by windows 95. And Wayland? Really? Still yelling at that cloud?

I expect people will stop yelling about Wayland when it works as reliably as X, which is probably a decade away. I await your "works for me!" response.

These days Wayland is MUCH smoother than X11 even with an Nvidia graphics cards. With X11, I occasionally had tearing issues or other weird behavior. Wayland fixed all of that on my gaming PC.

Re: Gentoo Linux 2025 Review

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Post by Thev00d00 »

I saw a comment in a "I moved from Windows to Linux" thread implying Windows has more configuration potential than Linux. I wonder what that commenter would make of Gentoo.

I wish I had more time I could dedicate to maintaining my system, I'm marooned on Arch due to lack of time, such a shame.

Re: Gentoo Linux 2025 Review

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Post by solaris2007 »

M95D wrote: post #92
flipped wrote: post #12

How easy is it to administer gentoo servers? Is it on-par with nix/arch or harder?

TLDR: Installation is a pain, initial configuration is a pain and there's always something more to tweak, update is a lesser pain, but still a pain. But it's fun, BDSM-style... Installation is done by booting a liveCD, manually partitioning your storage, unpacking a Gentoo STAGE3 archive, chrooting in it, doing basic configuration such as network, timezone, portage (package manager) base profile and servers, etc., co…

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Re: Gentoo Linux 2025 Review

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Post by ZenoArrow »

shevy-java wrote: post #35

Gentoo has many smart people. Having said that, I can't help but feel that ever since the rise of Arch, Gentoo lost a lot of grounds. This may not be primarily due to Arch, but it kind of felt that way to me. I feel that the Gentoo devs should really look at its main competitors such as Void or Arch, IMO. These seem to be more like a modern Gentoo, even if they are different and have a different focus too.

Neither Void or Arch are a "modern Gentoo". Gentoo is it's own thing. If anything, Gentoo's closest "competitors" in terms of OS customisation would be NixOS or Guix, not Void or Arch, but Gentoo is forging it's own path, it doesn't need to follow any other distro.

Re: Gentoo Linux 2025 Review

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Post by kombine »

tosti wrote: post #17
Etheryte wrote: post #5

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This is, in a way, why it's nice that we have companies like Red Hat, SUSE and so on. Even if you might not like their specific distros for one reason or another, they've found a way to make money in a way where they contribute back for everything they've received. Most companies don't do that.

Yes, that would be nice but when I look at their Grub src.rpm for instance, some of those patches would look original but came from Debian. Back in the day when the boxes were on display in brick-and-mortar stores, SuSE was a great way to get up and running with Linux.

The OpenSUSE Tumbleweed installation on my desktop PC is nearing 2 years now and still rolling. It is a great and somewhat underrated distribution.

Re: Gentoo Linux 2025 Review

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Post by solaris2007 »

speed_spread wrote: post #60
gylterud wrote: post #6

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I used Gentoo for ten years (2005–2015), and I was very happy with it! Stable was not the word I would use, in that updating frequently broke and required manual intervention. But it was so flexible! The easily accessible options one has for choosing everything about the system is unparalleled in any system I have tried since. I would still use it if I had more tinkering time. These days I am on NixOS, mostly to have…

What Gentoo really needs is an official immutability mechanism like ostree used by Fedora Silverblue or ZFS/btrfs snapshots of the root/boot volumes. This way the ever-experimental nature of the distro would be compensated by having an easy mechanism to rollback to previous known-good builds.

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Re: Gentoo Linux 2025 Review

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Post by cardanome »

Etheryte wrote: post #5
Y_Y wrote: post #3

> The Gentoo Foundation took in $12,066 in fiscal year 2025 (ending 2025/06/30); the dominant part (over 80%) consists of individual cash donations from the community. On the SPI side, we received $8,471 in the same period as fiscal year 2025; also here, this is all from small individual cash donations. It's crazy how projects this large and influential can get by on so little cash. Of course a lot of people are dona…

This is, in a way, why it's nice that we have companies like Red Hat, SUSE and so on. Even if you might not like their specific distros for one reason or another, they've found a way to make money in a way where they contribute back for everything they've received. Most companies don't do that.

Red Hat pushing for the disaster that is Wayland has set the Linux Desktop back decades.

It is the Microsoft of the Linux world.

Re: Gentoo Linux 2025 Review

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Post by reppap »

cardanome wrote: post #119
Etheryte wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is, in a way, why it's nice that we have companies like Red Hat, SUSE and so on. Even if you might not like their specific distros for one reason or another, they've found a way to make money in a way where they contribute back for everything they've received. Most companies don't do that.

Red Hat pushing for the disaster that is Wayland has set the Linux Desktop back decades. It is the Microsoft of the Linux world.

I'm sorry but this is just completely disconnected from reality. Wayland is being successfully used every single day. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's inherently bad.
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