I’m surprised how many places in the world measure rain in percentage chance. Must be a metropolitan concept. Here in Denmark, weather reports estimate mm/hr - the amount of rain. Maybe it’s our agricultural inheritance?
Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
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Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#112Dark Sky was a marvel, and when it first came out, its ability to say rain will start where you are in 2-3 minutes was a marvel. The information design argument is 100% valid, but I also marvel that, having bought the company, Apple's weather app still isn't as precise or accurate. I don't know whether Apple's privacy focus prevents them making the same precise predictions, or if there is some other reason they don't…
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#113Dark Sky was a marvel, and when it first came out, its ability to say rain will start where you are in 2-3 minutes was a marvel. The information design argument is 100% valid, but I also marvel that, having bought the company, Apple's weather app still isn't as precise or accurate. I don't know whether Apple's privacy focus prevents them making the same precise predictions, or if there is some other reason they don't…
> Apple's weather app still isn't as precise or accurate Is it not? The rainfall-per-minute over the next hour on iOS seems about the same accuracy as Dark Sky had -- I used Dark Sky for years. It wasn't perfect but it worked well enough, same as iOS did after. You can even scrub the precipitation map predictions and they look the same to me. I know the Dark Sky prediction accuracy was greatly dependent on where you…
Apple Weather is nothing like this.
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#114I am surprised no one mentioned Carrot as a replacement! I have been using it for years. they don't have their own source of data, they are mostly a good UI, and you need to select a data source like Apple Weather or others.
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#115Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#116I’m surprised how many places in the world measure rain in percentage chance. Must be a metropolitan concept. Here in Denmark, weather reports estimate mm/hr - the amount of rain. Maybe it’s our agricultural inheritance?
Most places I look at report both probability and give a measurement prediction. So it would be like "60% chance of rain after 2pm, total amount less than 1/10th of an inch"
It tells you all you need to know at a glance :)
e.g. see https://www.meteoswiss.admin.ch/images/1904/website/weather/...
(from https://www.meteoswiss.admin.ch/weather/weather-and-climate-...)
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#117(and yes, the visualizations were beautiful, but the real key was being able to see exactly where one was with respect to the radar picture and to be able to use already existing forward predictions of the radar picture in conjunction with precise gps to generate timeseries/events.)
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#118After darksky was shutdown I ended up using, https://www.yr.no/en . I've not seen it recommended here before and thought someone might enjoy it
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#119I've settled on using the built-in Android weather app, but it pales in comparison to Dark Sky, in every respect.
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree. One of the weird things is that the precipitation map will show rain coming that doesn't show anywhere else in the Weather app. Nearly every time that happens, the map is the one that's correct. And usually forecast.weather.gov will align with the map as well (and provide a better forecast than the app).
But that's the point. The map is based on the Dark Sky algorithm and only goes out an hour or so. And that's where the next-hour precipitation graph comes from -- and I've never seen them not match. Everything else is standard weather forecasts. Dark Sky itself worked the same way. It wasn't making 6-hour forecasts using its 1-hour algorithm. The results would have been terrible. This is why I don't understand the co…