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Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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This is how "end of support" should be handled. Instead of turning devices into e-waste, open-source them and let the community extend their life. Kudos to Bose for setting a good example. More companies should follow this approach - especially as right-to-repair becomes a bigger issue.

This def needs to be celebrated and rewarded. I am more likely to purchase Bose now.

Ironically this makes me want to buy this discontinued model, not anything currently supported by Bose.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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My experience is the opposite: Bose hardware and sound quality seems excellent to me. This may be subjective. Bose might sound good to some people's ears and less good to other people's ears.

I don't know about Bose. But sound quality in general is absolutely objectively measurable.

You can certainly measure it, but the catch is that there is not always a single "correct" value. So just because you can measure what the speakers are outputting and then adjust it, it doesn't mean there is one correct output value.

A good example of this is a target curve, often used in room calibration. Dirac has a good explanation: https://www.dirac.com/resources/target-curve

(highly recommend Dirac room correction, by the way)

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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This def needs to be celebrated and rewarded. I am more likely to purchase Bose now.

Just to mention: Teufel has been even moving further with their fully open hardware design of MYND [0]. Hope others will follow. [0] https://teufel.de/mynd-107002004

I bought one just this week because of this. They really went above and beyond:

- mechanical CAD, schematic and PCB files: https://docs.teufel.de/download/MYND/Open_Source_Hardware_Fi...

- firmware: https://github.com/teufelaudio/mynd-firmware

- Bluetooth API documentation: https://cdn.teufelaudio.com/image/upload/v1748589486/product...

- battery repair/replacement guide: https://cdn.teufelaudio.com/products/MYND/pdf/Teufel_MYND_RM...

I believe that they designed the mechanical parts to be 3D-printable as well.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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I got my first Bose headphone in 2008 or so. It was a treat for myself as a poor university student after a paycheque. I loved the headphone and one day it broke down after several years of heavy abuse. I called their customer service for repairs and how much it would cost. Rather than recommending me to just buy a new one, the customer support agent asked questions about the model, what the issue was, and offered a replacement.

I've loved their product and support ever since. Glad to see this happening as well. Kudos.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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I don't know about Bose. But sound quality in general is absolutely objectively measurable.

> But sound quality in general is absolutely objectively measurable. Sound quality is not the same as music quality. To be more specific, Sound Reproduction Fidelity is not the same as Pleasant Music To be even more specific, Signal Reproduction is not the same as "Pleasant Sounds* The goal of music is not always high fidelity of reproduction; if it were, over-driven valve amps would never have been a thing. The only…

Signal reproduction matters quite a bit more for music production than it does for music listening and enjoyment. That's why producers and engineers look for 'monitors', rather than hi-fi speakers.

Hi-fi speakers, tube amps, and other accessories generally "degrade" the sound with added harmonics and natural smile EQs. That's what makes them sound more pleasing.

(I'm not disagreeing with you, just adding more color.)

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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post #32
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This is how "end of support" should be handled. Instead of turning devices into e-waste, open-source them and let the community extend their life. Kudos to Bose for setting a good example. More companies should follow this approach - especially as right-to-repair becomes a bigger issue.

I agree, but there can be IP rights involved that make this difficult.

If IP rights make doing the right thing too onerous, we can always reduce IP rights powers in this specific situation.

Or across the board, since they are absurdly powerful right now. Nintendo could not legally keep you from hacking a console before the DMCA.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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This def needs to be celebrated and rewarded. I am more likely to purchase Bose now.

Ironically this makes me want to buy this discontinued model, not anything currently supported by Bose.

It makes me want to buy both! Old to tinker with, new to support the move.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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My understanding of modern Bose kit based on RTINGS reviews is that it's fairly competitive in its price range. Still a touch pricey for what you get, but not bad by any means—like 2nd/3rd best, and occasionally punching above its weight for their midrange offerings. They seem to be #1 for comfort (headphones) though. I don't own any, I've just read reviews from when I was in the market for new headphones and earbuds…

Their headphones are remarkably comfortable

I have a pair of Bose QC35s and a set of AirPod Pros. More often than not, for a late night YouTube binge in bed, I’m reaching for the QC35s.

Re: Bose has released API docs and opened the API for its EoL SoundTouch speakers

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This def needs to be celebrated and rewarded. I am more likely to purchase Bose now.

Ironically this makes me want to buy this discontinued model, not anything currently supported by Bose.

A better way to say that is "This will boost the second-hand value of older Bose speakers".

Budget-aware folks will buy these second-hand, neophiles will buy new, confident that long term solutions will exist even after "long term support" is over.

Heck, even knowing there's a second-hand market makes me more likely to buy Bose new.

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