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Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by temp0826 »

sedatk wrote: post #108
temp0826 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few of my favorite artists have dropped from Spotify (for great reasons that I agree with) and I want to switch to something else. I gave Apple Music a try but the interface is just unbelievably bad. Also I am a Linux user and the lack of a native app is brutal (and Cider, a 3rd party app, is a no-go for me). Tidal seems decent though and I'll probably give it another shot eventually. The other thing is I actually…

Apple Music has a native Windows app (and surprisingly not Electron), but it's quite unstable and laggy, and makes me deal with "authorize this computer" or whatever every week. So, practically equivalent to having no native app.

I went down the rabbit hole with it and even briefly tried it out via wine before giving up. Pretty unfortunate that there isn't even an electron app. The web gui is just painfully slow and clunky (plus not being able to download/cache songs is the biggest bummer).

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by doublerabbit »

nomel wrote: post #109
doublerabbit wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe pointless, but if provided why not?

By the same logic, if pointless, why?

As quoted from the OP.

> 24-bit helps in production pipelines for mixing, but for end user playback it's pointless.

If you have two versions of something, where one is better than the other and the resource cost is more or less the same it makes more sense to provide the better than the worse.

Maybe the end-user takes interest in mixing/production for which they then have the higher version allowing them to work with without the faff of having to obtain the better quality works. The end-user won't know the difference and the new apprentice has a copy that they can work with.

That's not a loss, that's a benefit even if pointless to the end user.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by Spivak »

jamie_ca wrote: post #59
DelightOne wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon Originals, Netflix Originals. Disney Originals. Paramount Originals. I'm just wondering what is different between series and music, that for music its very bad morally to create your own and to put your own in the front row. While for other streaming its accepted.

The difference is how they're consumed you don't sit down on Netflix and say "put some scifi on shuffle for 8h", you sit down and choose a show. If you're the kind of person who would manually queue up 100% of your songs for the day then Spotify Generic songs aren't an issue. If you just hit a "2020s R&B" playlist and go that's where it feels more sketchy.

It's so funny reading this in 2025 when this is exactly how TV works. You would literally put on the SciFi channel. How far we've come.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by [deleted] »

xp84 wrote: post #62
WD-42 wrote: post #8

I recently made the same switch. Tailscale plus jellyfin is great. Threw in Immich too for good measure. I wanted a nice native client for Linux instead of using the web app so I wrote one in Rust. Shameless plug: https://github.com/Fingel/gelly

Do you have a recommendation for a Jellyfin client that does a good job for music, for either iOS or Android?

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Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by soiltype »

thordenmark wrote: post #70
geekamongus wrote: post #5

A couple of points missed for why Spotify is bad: - Paying musicians cheap wages to make boring music (ghost artists) for playlists they promote: https://harpers.org/archive/2025/01/the-ghosts-in-the-machin... - Not paying musicians anything at all if they don't have enough streams: https://www.engadget.com/spotify-confirms-it-wont-offer-payo... - Not preventing the deluge of AI-generated music flooding the platform:…

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It's very hard for me to see how someone could believe this unless they never even tried to actually find new music. I just bought a great new metal album (human made) yesterday.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by D9LuTa4gT0UnN »

acureau wrote: post #27

Spotify is the only streaming service I still pay for, and I will continue to pay for, because: 1. The catalog is comprehensive. I listen to far more music than I could afford to own. 2. There are no advertisements in the paid service. 3. Their music discovery algorithm is excellent. I also appreciate the yearly statistics, and how they continue to add value for me. Podcasts and eBooks being added to the platform was…

You should check out iomoio.com

They have an impressively large amount of music available. In addition, they price songs at $0.16 USD/song —- or cheaper if you deposit more money onto the platform and.

This isn’t piracy (money is flowing to artists) and you get to own at a fraction of the cost of iTune, Qobuz, or other platforms that charge around $0.99/song

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by soiltype »

temp0826 wrote: post #94
sedatk wrote: post #67

I stopped my Spotify subscription and gave Apple Music and Youtube Music a try for a few months. I'm now again a Spotify user, despite that Youtube Music is still included in my Youtube Premium. The apps are terrible in terms of usability, performance, and reliability. I couldn't believe Apple dropped the ball on so hard on this, but then I remembered iTunes and started believing again. Most of my problem is basic ne…

A few of my favorite artists have dropped from Spotify (for great reasons that I agree with) and I want to switch to something else. I gave Apple Music a try but the interface is just unbelievably bad. Also I am a Linux user and the lack of a native app is brutal (and Cider, a 3rd party app, is a no-go for me). Tidal seems decent though and I'll probably give it another shot eventually. The other thing is I actually…

Tidal and Qobuz are good, if you need a streaming service, although Qobuz is much less oriented around "pick a vibe and press play". They might not have exactly the things you like about Spotify, but as far as sacrifice goes, if you feel Spotify should be abandoned for ideological reasons, it's trivial.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Post by Spivak »

cdrnsf wrote: post #7
geekamongus wrote: post #5

A couple of points missed for why Spotify is bad: - Paying musicians cheap wages to make boring music (ghost artists) for playlists they promote: https://harpers.org/archive/2025/01/the-ghosts-in-the-machin... - Not paying musicians anything at all if they don't have enough streams: https://www.engadget.com/spotify-confirms-it-wont-offer-payo... - Not preventing the deluge of AI-generated music flooding the platform:…

They also commission music from "ghost artists" that they can pay a fix rate, then place said artists in popular playlists to reduce royalty payouts.

I really don't understand the hate around this one.

1. Spotify made a playlist that's "Chill Jazz To Study To" that's really popular.

2. They realize that listeners don't actually care about the specific artists in the playlist since it's background noise.

3. There are companies who specialize in making "b-roll" music for background noise and have a huge library of it just sitting around.

4. Spotify realizes they can license them on the cheap.

5. Profit?

Seems like a win for everyone involved including the listener who gets fresh tracks in their study playlists basically forever.

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Post by potatoicecoffee »

thordenmark wrote: post #70
geekamongus wrote: post #5

A couple of points missed for why Spotify is bad: - Paying musicians cheap wages to make boring music (ghost artists) for playlists they promote: https://harpers.org/archive/2025/01/the-ghosts-in-the-machin... - Not paying musicians anything at all if they don't have enough streams: https://www.engadget.com/spotify-confirms-it-wont-offer-payo... - Not preventing the deluge of AI-generated music flooding the platform:…

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it probably is you just need to spend more time finding it. why would you choose this over finding music that has been made by someone interesting that lets you form a community or see a band live?

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Post by ryandrake »

dazzawazza wrote: post #3

Nice. I self host using Navidrome, FreeBSD and Wireguard. I have a decent Fibre connection to my house and a static IP so it's "free" to serve. I primary do it because Spotify is basically sucking the life out of the music industry and I love heavy metal.

My media library is simply a directory on my Linux NAS, exported over NFS. No VPS, no Plex, no Jellyfin no Jellyfish, no Jelly donut, just NFS. If I want to listen to a song or play a movie, I just navigate to that directory and play it. Simplest system I could come up with.
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