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Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by FpUser »

carbonbioxide wrote: post #103
FpUser wrote: post #94

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>"Why not take up cycling?" I was a cycling maniac for some time. It fucks one up (knees, back, elbows) anyways. After 10 years of that I cut it down to occasional pleasure rides. Luckily all my pains had stopped after a couple of years.

isn't jogging more impactful to the knees than cycling? I've seen this over and over.

I no longer regularly jog / run / cycle, only occasionally for pleasure. I either swim or hike steep hills or if weather is ugly just put treadmill on 15% incline and walk very fast for an hour or so. Wastes energy like crazy and leaves my knees intact.

Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by tybit »

carbonbioxide wrote: post #103
FpUser wrote: post #94

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>"Why not take up cycling?" I was a cycling maniac for some time. It fucks one up (knees, back, elbows) anyways. After 10 years of that I cut it down to occasional pleasure rides. Luckily all my pains had stopped after a couple of years.

isn't jogging more impactful to the knees than cycling? I've seen this over and over.

Yes, but it’s a common misconception that impact is a bad thing.

The body, including bones, muscles, tendons and joints, adapt to stress. Many people do too little, not too much, as they get older.

There’s a limit to that recovery of course, and balancing it with stress is not always simple.

Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by fc417fc802 »

kelipso wrote: post #68
IsTom wrote: post #64

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Still, if you eat enough complete protein sources you'll have all the amino acids you need.

Maybe, maybe not. It would depend on a variety of factors including the activities you do, your age, etc. Maybe athletes need more collagen compared to people who don’t exercise, etc, etc. Also complete protein sources are definitely not easy to get. Good luck if you have dietary constraints.

> Also complete protein sources are definitely not easy to get.

... all of the essential amino acids? What is difficult about that?

Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by fc417fc802 »

aeonik wrote: post #39
rixed wrote: post #21

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Evidence seems to be lacking though. Do you have any specific source in mind?

There's very good evidence coming out of UC Davis. they have MRIs, decent experimental evidence, and biochemical explanations. They have published quite a few papers over the years. You can start here, https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9267994/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5183725/ Look up Keith Baar.

I found that second link interesting although it raised the question of why gelatin versus amino acids in general.

However neither link seems to have anything to do with UC Davis or biochemical mechanisms related to collagen supplementation. I realize that it probably wasn't your intent but the mismatch leaves me feeling vaguely as though you tried to deceive me there.

Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

mgarfias wrote: post #52
linsomniac wrote: post #51

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These are the ones: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2gS8RYc9lus "Frog Mobility" -- Get on hands and knees, spread knees but keep your feet closer together, rock back towards your heels and forward. "Frog Cat/Cow" -- Same position as above, but tilt your pelvis; curve your back up then down. "Tactical Frog" -- I haven't done this one yet, but it is frog mobility but with each rocking forward twist one of your feet up i…

these look like they have ... other uses.

It's helpful to combine fitness with fun.

Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by lostlogin »

carbonbioxide wrote: post #103
FpUser wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"Why not take up cycling?" I was a cycling maniac for some time. It fucks one up (knees, back, elbows) anyways. After 10 years of that I cut it down to occasional pleasure rides. Luckily all my pains had stopped after a couple of years.

isn't jogging more impactful to the knees than cycling? I've seen this over and over.

A poorly adjusted cleat is absolute hell on the knee.

It can be difficult to fix too as once your knee is sore it takes ages to come right so it’s not clear if adjusting the cleat is working.

Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by cesnja »

usrme wrote: post #110
belZaah wrote: post #106

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Trail running is fun. But it’s probably not the surface but the technique change, that gets rid of the pain. I’m currently going through the process of shifting my running technique to where I push rather than pull myself forward and it’s a revelation. When your foot lands in front of your center of gravity, it necessarily brakes your forward movement. All that momentum has to go somewhere, eg get absorbed by your jo…

This sounds interesting. Would you be able to share more information about this style of running? I'm having a hard time imagining how this plays out in real life.

Running barefoot forces you to improve your technique in line with this description. [0] There's also a sizeable market of "barefoot shoes" that's between being barefoot and the regular running shoes, with the manufacturers trying to convince us buying such shoes is the solution. The gait issue become more obvious (and painful) in barefoot shoes, but you can adjust your technique in mass-market running shoes as well.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSIDRHUWlVo

Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by RealityVoid »

abrookewood wrote: post #92
nappy-doo wrote: post #3

As I've gotten older, my knees have been the main signal letting me know. I tore my meniscus years ago. This is exciting news for people like me.

I've torn mine as well and am yet to get it repaired. Did you get surgery? Anything working for you?

I got surgery about 8 years ago, after 10 years of on/off knee pain that I ignored. I had locking in the knee so I needed to so something so I could walk. Surgery was fine, they opened me up and my meniscus was all stringy as if you cracked an egg in boiling water, so no fixing it and they cut off 50% of my meniscus. I recovered quite easily, stupidly did not do any formal physio but proceeded to do mostly moderately heavy lifting with some light running and cycling (very light cardio for the runners around, but still something compared to couch potatoes). Since about 2 years I have pain and a pressure in the knee, not very intense pain but more unsettling. Pain also seems to show up after some sort of activity threshold and the effort accumulates. I eventually took an MRI about a month ago, I have first to second degree condroathy. A couple of physio sessions seemed to help but I need to take the time to do a full physio cycle. I can't wait for cartilage Regen tech. It's very nice being physically active. Worst case, I use it until I can't anymore, do a knee replacement and after that fails hop on one leg as a pirate.

My hope to pull another 15 years of functional use out of it, enough to do fun activities with my son.

Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by RealityVoid »

pedalpete wrote: post #60
linsomniac wrote: post #27

I have had fairly serious arthritis in my hips for close to a decade now. Cortizone shots directly into the joint have helped the worst of the flare-ups (limping on my way into the shot, having 0 pain walking out of it, lasting a year). 5+ years ago when I was looking for another injection, my PCP said "Well, time for a hip replacement." Now, for reasons I don't understand I think he was being way premature on that (…

When doing stretches, don't forget the opposite side of the equation which is strength. Not the "I'm going to bench 200lbs" type strength, but the musculature that supports movement. It's quite easy to always focus on stretching, but not build the muscles that support good movement. You can turn yourself into a floppy noodle, which brings on more injury.

The two kinds of strength are correlated and ability to push heavy weights is super useful. In my experience, it helps.

Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by kakacik »

FpUser wrote: post #111
carbonbioxide wrote: post #103

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isn't jogging more impactful to the knees than cycling? I've seen this over and over.

I no longer regularly jog / run / cycle, only occasionally for pleasure. I either swim or hike steep hills or if weather is ugly just put treadmill on 15% incline and walk very fast for an hour or so. Wastes energy like crazy and leaves my knees intact.

There is the downhill part of the hikes, unless you have ski lifts or similar way of getting down. I used to do running a bit before major paragliding accident, and I hiked like there is no tomorrow and still do... subjectively the hiking down part felt more stressful on knees than running (maybe not on concrete/tarmac).
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