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Everything is political, always has been.
The "apolitical" is just an implicit endorsement of the status quo.
Fahrplan – 39C3
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Re: Fahrplan – 39C3
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
The event that starts with "die Sprache der überwacher" That's non political?
Its regardlessly still computer-adjacent, not like the talk linked from 39c3 Ok let me rephrase then if you didn’t understand my point: Its getting too filled with politics that don’t have anything to do with computers
How is it computer adjacent, keep in mind, it's a talk about how the media communicates things...
Surveillance was the political topic of 2020, so there was quite a few talks about that, migration is the political topic 2025, so there are a lot of talks about that
There are also other unrelated things which do not have a lot to do with computers, like "all creatures welcome".
Re: Fahrplan – 39C3
#113I'll never get people who say that there is too much politics at a god damn hacker conference like the CCC, considering The Chaos Computer Club was founded in 1981 specifically to be a political watchdog.
more so especially since the very act of "hacking" is a political statement because it involves redistributing power over information.
Code is law, remember?
That would be like complaining about "too much law" at a constitutional convention.
Re: Fahrplan – 39C3
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you point to some?
Not sure the number is up from last year (I think there are fewer O/T talks this year even) but there are many talks that have nothing to do with hacking even if some of them might pigue my interest, such as the following: https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2025/fahrplan/event/... https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2025/fahrplan/event/... https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2025/fahrplan/event/... https…
Complex data analytics of political relevant topics have nothing to with hacking? With source code and data available to play with?
I would love to know what you would think would be more fitting talks?
Re: Fahrplan – 39C3
#115Are there any streams working? https://streaming.media.ccc.de/39c3 says 'has not started yet'.
it's because the congress has literally not started yet.
opening is tomorrow 10h30 CET
Re: Fahrplan – 39C3
#116Are there any streams working? https://streaming.media.ccc.de/39c3 says 'has not started yet'.
That's because it hasn't. You wrote this on Dec 26, the event starts on Dec 27, 9:30 UTC.
Re: Fahrplan – 39C3
#117https://streaming.media.ccc.de/39c3 All talks will be live streamed, and right after the talk is done you have a rough cut available instantly under "re-live" you can watch until the final recording is available; https://streaming.media.ccc.de/39c3/relive The final recording will appear under a day or two after the talk is held: https://media.ccc.de/c/39c3 EDIT: A different variant of the schedule with better filteri…
I made https://fahrplan.cc where you can filter the [not] recorded sessions, categories, and titles. I've mostly made it for myself to skip the recorded sessions when on-site and to see what's coming up at the current time of day. It therefore tries to include all the self organized sessions, workshops, meetups, music programs, etc. I've been running it for a few years and people use it for all kinds of use cases, in…
I like your tool, but the schedule in the "hub" can now also filter for "recorded":
https://events.ccc.de/congress/2025/hub/de/schedule?mode=lis...
Re: Fahrplan – 39C3
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been there like 2 decades ago and even then it was a deeply political event. There never a time where German hacker clubs, which are the lifeblood of this event, weren't very political - and very explicitly left wing political.
We might be the same age; I remember that defacing conservative websites was already a C3 thing about 20 years ago. Back then, it felt good to punch up against authoritarianism. Hackers hated Bush and his Patriot Act just as much as many hate Trump now. In Germany, the CDU is of course the perennial enemy. But what happens when authoritarianism does not come from the right, but from the left or center? (Not a contrad…
>But what happens when authoritarianism does not come from the right, but from the left or center? (Not a contradiction:
That's the whole thing of the "political compass" both a left-to-right wing axis and a perpendicular authoritarian-libertarian axis:
Re: Fahrplan – 39C3
#119First time without fefe :-(
time to use chaospost to send him a get-well card! :-)
Re: Fahrplan – 39C3
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
There has been plenty of direct action in recent years, but I can't really think of any on a global scale. Lots of smaller things on a German level, like journalists reporting about infiltrating a Great Replacement conference hosted by the second biggest political party here.
Sure, but it is unarguably much more boring stuff than it was years ago. I attend almost every Congress with a variety of groups, and there's certainly been a culture shift over the years from lots of anarchists who had no qualms with breaking the law to much more corporate scaredy-cats. Congress seems to keep growing so perhaps this is just serving a broader audience. But knowing a lot of long-time attendees, I'm ce…
Love that you complain about not enough people breaking the law and somewhere below complains about to many people breaking the law
Let's be real, the videos get far to much eyes to break the law. There are smaller talks and groups where it looks different.