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Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by lostlogin »

Waterluvian wrote: post #72

iOS autocomplete for the longest time was just absolutely insane. It would inject the selected suggested option into the middle of a word when I was correcting a spelling error. Really made me feel like I was doing something weird but I swear I was being normal for once.

> iOS autocomplete for the longest time was just absolutely insane.

As well as what you describe, it starts to hate me uncertain words. I have a colleague called An. iOS hates this and changes it. It does it when you are a line away from the word too. It’s painful.

I have to type ‘TE’ regularly too, an abbreviation for echo time.

If you’re on iOS, try it. I have resorted to typing TEE and then hitting delete to remove a E and then carrying on.

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by Timwi »

naikrovek wrote: post #64
RajT88 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a deep and abiding love of Powershell but you are spot on. It is amazing until you run into one of these insane behaviors that somehow nobody ever fixed. (Some are actually fixed finally in 7.x - like issues with filenames with grave characters in them)

I like PowerShell too, but in what universe other than ours (clearly the worst one) is it even possible for loading a module to take more time than the blink of an eye? Microsoft should find it embarrassing how long it takes powershell to load a module. Pushing to autocomplete a cmdlet name should never take more than maybe 100 milliseconds.

Loading times surely is not a problem unique to Powershell. The more complex and advanced a software gets, the more it takes to load data into RAM that appears to the user redundant.

This is the most noticable with startup times. My favorite software (Firefox) has this solved; it opens up in reasonable amounts of time, even if it takes a moment after to show the first website. My second favorite software (Inkscape), meanwhile, takes so long just to show the main UI that the developers didn't think anything of adding a splash screen: an overt acknowledgement that you're keeping the user waiting.

I, too, wish that everything were more lean and snappy, but clearly this is still an unsolved problem.

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by spidersouris »

locusofself wrote: post #30

Don't get me started on powershell! For one, it's the right arrow key for complete for most things (but tab for others). But by FAR the worst thing is that often times you'll type a command and try to tab/arrow complete an argument, and the module/dll or whatever is not loaded into memory, and so theres some blocking operation and loads the module which takes 10+ seconds. This happens to me almost every day. I do lov…

If you want to bind Tab to Accept suggestions:

Set-PSReadLineKeyHandler -Chord "Tab" -Function AcceptSuggestion

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by fainpul »

jknutson wrote: post #39
locusofself wrote: post #30

Don't get me started on powershell! For one, it's the right arrow key for complete for most things (but tab for others). But by FAR the worst thing is that often times you'll type a command and try to tab/arrow complete an argument, and the module/dll or whatever is not loaded into memory, and so theres some blocking operation and loads the module which takes 10+ seconds. This happens to me almost every day. I do lov…

If you like Powershell but have some complaints, you might find nushell to be the best of both worlds. My elevator pitch for it would be imagine the object-oriented / typed nature of Powershell, minus the verbosity and windows-centric design of it. As someone who develops on and for windows computers, nushell is a real breath of fresh air.

Whenever someone recommends nushell, I feel like I have to point out that its table output (a core feature) is broken:

https://github.com/nushell/nushell/issues/13601

https://github.com/nushell/nushell/issues/16379

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Post by FridayoLeary »

bluecalm wrote: post #107
FridayoLeary wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm convinced that the win10 Start Menu was the single worst thing microsoft inflicted upon us in that OS. I imagine that particular discussion went like this: Exec1:"We have a semi decent os with a refreshingly updated UI that should stay relevant for a decade. How can we make it better?" Exec2: "why not replace the perfectly good start menu we have with an ugly, oddly proportioned rectangle with animated ads for ou…

It took me a few hours to make the start menu looks like this: https://i.ibb.co/R4pgrwBx/start-menu.png Now it's clean, doesn't show any web results when I start typing there: https://i.ibb.co/KpNptJTq/start-menu2.png It also starts instantly every time (that requires removing Edge and web results from there). I use it as an app launcher only. The only missing touch is a fuzzy search but I can live without it. I've s…

Was the original menu so bad? Your one has zero discoverability, which is the main feature of the old menu, and something which was degraded, but not completely killed off on the newer versions.

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by Tyriar »

meander_water wrote: post #8

This is actually bearable compared to the new terminal suggestions in vscode. Not only does it autosuggest bizzare completions for commands, it breaks shell completions. So when I tab a file path, it shoves the absolute path into the partially typed path making it unusable.

Hi from the VS Code team - I recently went into detail about why we did this in https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/282268#issuecomme.... We believe it'll be beneficial overall and go a long way in lowering the bar to make the terminal less intimidating for newcomers. Conflicts with muscle memory was always a big concern which is why we made extra effort to be able to turn it off, the comment below that one outlines some steps we're making to make it more easily configurable inline.

On the roll out side, this is what we observed:

- It was enabled in Insiders for several months, generally only very positive reactions - It was surprising to me that we shipped this to 25% of our stable users and basically no one complained for 2 weeks before we rolled out to 100% - After hitting 100% of users we did see some backlash like this comment - Of course telemetry doesn't show the whole story, but we try to determine both whether the completion was modified and whether the command was successful after using it and both numbers stayed relatively stable since shipping in Insiders at what we consider pretty good numbers (both accept without editing and command success rate is ~80%).

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by nubg »

Tyriar wrote: post #117
meander_water wrote: post #8

This is actually bearable compared to the new terminal suggestions in vscode. Not only does it autosuggest bizzare completions for commands, it breaks shell completions. So when I tab a file path, it shoves the absolute path into the partially typed path making it unusable.

Hi from the VS Code team - I recently went into detail about why we did this in https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/282268#issuecomme... . We believe it'll be beneficial overall and go a long way in lowering the bar to make the terminal less intimidating for newcomers. Conflicts with muscle memory was always a big concern which is why we made extra effort to be able to turn it off, the comment below that one o…

It's scary to see how Microsoft tracks every single of our keystrokes in vscode.

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by itopaloglu83 »

Tyriar wrote: post #117
meander_water wrote: post #8

This is actually bearable compared to the new terminal suggestions in vscode. Not only does it autosuggest bizzare completions for commands, it breaks shell completions. So when I tab a file path, it shoves the absolute path into the partially typed path making it unusable.

Hi from the VS Code team - I recently went into detail about why we did this in https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/282268#issuecomme... . We believe it'll be beneficial overall and go a long way in lowering the bar to make the terminal less intimidating for newcomers. Conflicts with muscle memory was always a big concern which is why we made extra effort to be able to turn it off, the comment below that one o…

Location, location, location.

The feedback you receive is from a selection of people who’re trying new features, not people with existing patterns that is broken one of a sudden with an update while they’re trying to get stuff done.

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by dobin »

Tyriar wrote: post #117
meander_water wrote: post #8

This is actually bearable compared to the new terminal suggestions in vscode. Not only does it autosuggest bizzare completions for commands, it breaks shell completions. So when I tab a file path, it shoves the absolute path into the partially typed path making it unusable.

Hi from the VS Code team - I recently went into detail about why we did this in https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/282268#issuecomme... . We believe it'll be beneficial overall and go a long way in lowering the bar to make the terminal less intimidating for newcomers. Conflicts with muscle memory was always a big concern which is why we made extra effort to be able to turn it off, the comment below that one o…

Nobody at Microsoft has ever used this with WSL, and doing a "cd /", and getting autocomplete for "$RecycleBin" and other windows paths? It completely breaks bash autocomplete, and every single suggestion is completely wrong, in every single command i type.

I, and probably most uses, just hoped this going away as soon as possible again.

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