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Re: How I Left YouTube

#111
I worked at Google.

I’ve never worked at a more soul crushing company. The bureaucracy is worse than the government. There are too many embedded multi-millionaires with 15+ years tenure that don’t give a shit and don’t even respond to buganizer tickets.

If you come across a resume from anyone with more than 5 years at Google throw it away. It means they thrive in an environment where nothing gets done.

Re: How I Left YouTube

#112

>The problem of "doing more work and not getting compensated" is pretty well-known. Yes, the reward for more work is always more work. Hard work is the best way to make yourself unseen. Those who get promoted are busy advertising themselves, befriending strategically and may even take credit of your work while you are busy sweating. >My final conversation with my manager was heart-wrenching. I had prepared a script,…

Author here. I do want to mention that I don't exactly know the situation my manager was in, but he definitely did not make me feel dispensible personally. He and I had long conversations about life and work and our own lives and how the company will continue.

Some manager may seem this way, but my manager (and the other direct managers I had I YouTube) felt the most human and caring people I have met. They had goals to meet, but I also felt they really cared for me (and their other reports). So I really thank them for that.

Re: How I Left YouTube

#113
post #21

>At one prominent tech company, I underwent 13 separate interviews for a single role. In what insane world does this make any amount of sense?

I went through a loop at Meta that was probably 10-11 rounds. I would have done 100. The compensation is truly life changing and the engineering problems were world-class. I'm sure OP is correct that this is a signal for a bad org - but from the outside looking in you'll do anything.

Author here. Very good point. I am in a lucky position for retrospective, but I was also very much in the mood of "I'll take what i can get" lol

Re: How I Left YouTube

#114
Youtube is getting problematic. I write this as someone who basically has some videos running in the background all the time, mostly just DJ music in the background.

First, searching for videos sucks. Yes, the first few results can be useful, then more and more crap shows up. This just wastes my time. But, more importantly - more and more AI videos means I am being bombarded with more time wasters. I have about zero interest in AI videos; I am not saying 100% of it is crap, but I am getting more and more tired wasting any time in this regard here. Then the addiction by Google to have us watch ads - they killed ublock origin too on chrome. Even aside from this, I am noticing a drop of quality lately; many of the channels seem much more boring. I guess this kind of fatigue kicks in over time in general, but it seems to me as if some youtube "content creators" are running out of real ideas. They seem to be desperately addicted to "get the likes" and "get subscribers". I stopped being logged in to youtube years ago already and I also, oddly enough, want to completely decouple myself from Google too (too much Evil in this company now) - youtube is unfortunately something I still need and use right now, but many things suck more and more. Also that "swipe shorts down" - that activity is IMO a mental problem. After some 30 swipe downs, I ask myself why I am doing this. Google tries to want to commit me to this swipe action. It is like psychological manipulation. Click click drag drag click click click.

Re: How I Left YouTube

#115
post #92

I guess lying on your linkedin "senior swe" is also helpful for getting a staff engineer position?

Google submits your title and salary info to theworknumber, I would advise against this (and lying in general).

Author here. They do, even most recruiters require this before submitting for some of these jobs. Most hiring managers also filter that out by behavioral interviews and seeing how you handle team work, large scale work, and discussion upwards and downwards. Especially the higher you go, the harder it is to lie to get through.

Re: How I Left YouTube

#116
I'm sorry, but why did the author not mark this post as AI generated? It's clear from many different phrasings that this was written with an LLM. And no, I won't point out any particular spot, but I'm sure my fellow commenters will know what I am talking about.

I acknowledge that the author (probably) had indeed experienced the things described (at least most of them, as LLMs often like to add details here and there), and it was fine in terms of being interesting, but I feel offended when people try to pass of text formulated by an LLM (even if they put in a bulletpoint draft) without disclosure that it's been written by an LLM.

Can the author please share the prompt containing the draft that he sent to the LLM?

I'd much rather read that!

Re: How I Left YouTube

#117
post #101

Multiple denied promo applications. Warm, caring language but no attempt at retention on resignation. Other companies unsure of hiring candidate even after 10+ interviews. The simplest explanation of these datapoints is simply that this person is not operating at the staff level in a way that is fairly obvious to others, yet hard to articulate in a way that this person can emotionally receive and accept. None of this…

Have you worked at BigCo before? This was 1:1 my experience at a large company and within months they were asking for a +1 leveled boomerang.

You can't take denied promos at face value, honestly.

Re: How I Left YouTube

#118
Author here. I'm touched by whoever posted this here. I hope people can read this and feel empowered to value themselves and try to make the impact they feel like they can.

Happy holidays everyone! ♥

Re: How I Left YouTube

#119
post #98
post #93

I have seen this from the manager side at these kinds of companies, explaining to your manager that you are quitting because your level does not match your work is a waste of energy. Their hands are usually tied. Promotion decisions are made by committees which are 1-2 levels above your manager, your manager presents the candidates. They round up a pot of multiple teams which are discussed at once and there are usual…

Author here. My manager and I discussed lengths about the capabilities they do, and it is just like this. It's not his fault at all. It's a game at the end of the day, and it's your choice whether or not you want to keep on playing

Do you think retrospectively your manager may not have been as supportive of you as you had thought?

You missed promo 3 times, and when you left he didn't try to counter you. Is it possible s/he might have been blocking you?

Re: How I Left YouTube

#120

Tried to read through the article, but couldn't finish. I felt this writing heavily alluded to a ChatGPT generated response. Too many punchlines and paragraph breaks.

Some version of this comment shows up in just about every HN comment thread on a blog post. It must be LLM-generated.

His criticism is valid. Not his fault most blog posts are AI slop these days.
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