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Re: Flock Exposed Its AI-Powered Cameras to the Internet. We Tracked Ourselves

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Post by devwastaken »

kklisura wrote: post #58
kklisura wrote: post #46

For more context here Flock Safety is a YC-backed company [1][2] [1] https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flock-safety [2] https://x.com/garrytan/status/1856016868580151615

And let me share this reply by Garry Tan, CEO of YC, after someone made a comment that Flock might be _pretty dystopian_ [1][2]: > You're thinking Chinese surveillance > US-based surveillance helps victims and prevents more victims [1] https://x.com/neurajordan/status/1963303084609966288 [2] https://x.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955

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Re: Flock Exposed Its AI-Powered Cameras to the Internet. We Tracked Ourselves

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Post by afavour »

leeoniya wrote: post #92
kklisura wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And let me share this reply by Garry Tan, CEO of YC, after someone made a comment that Flock might be _pretty dystopian_ [1][2]: > You're thinking Chinese surveillance > US-based surveillance helps victims and prevents more victims [1] https://x.com/neurajordan/status/1963303084609966288 [2] https://x.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955

> You're thinking Chinese surveillance the big irony, of course, is that i'm much more comfortable with China surveilling me than the US, since the latter can throw me in jail, seize my assets, and ruin my family's life, while the former cannot.

The US government is a democracy and can be replaced should it exceed people’s limits. The CCP… uh, not so much.

I’m not trying to say the US government is faultless but it amazes me how often I see this kind of anti-democratic institition sentiment.

Re: Flock Exposed Its AI-Powered Cameras to the Internet. We Tracked Ourselves

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Post by kgwxd »

eightysixfour wrote: post #13

I don't want these cameras to exist but, if they're going to , might we be better off if they are openly accessible? At the very least, that would make the power they grant more diffuse and people would be more cognizant of their existence and capabilities.

They don't grant power, they enhance it. Not helpful for those without don't have any actual power.

Re: Flock Exposed Its AI-Powered Cameras to the Internet. We Tracked Ourselves

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Post by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF »

devwastaken wrote: post #111
kklisura wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And let me share this reply by Garry Tan, CEO of YC, after someone made a comment that Flock might be _pretty dystopian_ [1][2]: > You're thinking Chinese surveillance > US-based surveillance helps victims and prevents more victims [1] https://x.com/neurajordan/status/1963303084609966288 [2] https://x.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955

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If the police protected and served as they're asked they could get some funding. Not for tanks and spy cameras, but for trained officers.

Re: Flock Exposed Its AI-Powered Cameras to the Internet. We Tracked Ourselves

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Post by adamthegoalie »

esseph wrote: post #82
kirykl wrote: post #54

If the cameras are recoding public areas, isn’t it better the recorded footage stays public

Would you want your partner or child stalked, raped, and murdered? You don't even need to drop an air tag now, you can use the license plate reader to track them everywhere they go. There is no hiding.

At first I thought you were defending flock. Seems clear the cameras make it harder to commit crimes and easier to go after the offenders, despite all the side effects most people are upset about here.

Re: Flock Exposed Its AI-Powered Cameras to the Internet. We Tracked Ourselves

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Post by tediousgraffit1 »

eddyg wrote: post #47

Yes, they should be secured so they can only be accessed by law enforcement. But if your spouse/SO/sister/mother/girlfriend/whatever was assaulted while jogging in a park that had Flock cameras, and it allowed law enforcement to quickly identify, track, apprehend and charge the criminal, you'd absolutely be grateful for the technology. There's nothing worse than being told "we don't have any leads" when someone you c…

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Re: Flock Exposed Its AI-Powered Cameras to the Internet. We Tracked Ourselves

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Post by lubujackson »

eightysixfour wrote: post #13

I don't want these cameras to exist but, if they're going to , might we be better off if they are openly accessible? At the very least, that would make the power they grant more diffuse and people would be more cognizant of their existence and capabilities.

Did you see the other post about this where the guys showed a Flock camera pointed at a playground, so any pedo can see when kids are there and not attended?

Or how it has become increasingly trivial to identify by face or license plate such that combining tools reaches "movie Interpol" levels, without any warrant or security credentials?

If Big Brother surveillance is unavoidable I don't think "everyone has access" is the solution. The best defense is actually the glut of data and the fact nobody is actively watching you picking your nose in the elevator. If everyone can utilize any camera and its history for any reason then expect fractal chaos and internet shaming.

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