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Why would that be your problem? Make it a warranty violation, and they can either get it fixed themselves, or pay you money you wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
Because people lie and still give you 1 star rating perhaps.
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> No, anti-consumer sentiment is "you have to buy a different charger for each device and it becomes obsolete with the device". But you don't? The other end of any Lightning connector is USB-A or USB-C. Works just fine anywhere. > Factories in the EU means workers employed and taxes paid in the EU. It means a lot here. So I guess going back to the original parent's point: if your company is producing stuff in Europe,…
> Which kind of confirms everyone's suspicions about EU regulations... they're just foreign company shakedowns under the guise of "protecting the consumer." Zero evidence was provided to support this, but I guess facts don't matter anymore.
What do you think the whole thread was about?
Apple makes a proprietary connector: anti-consumer behavior according to the EU. Use a standard connector or get fined to oblivion.
BMW makes a proprietary, patented _screw_: perfectly acceptable according to the EU.
Are you being intentionally obtuse here or what? The proof is that you have an instance of the same behavior in two different domains, with the main difference being one company is American and one is European.
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Communism = "different companies competing in the free market"?
I shouldn't do jokes on HN, but if you look at the Chinese car market, it looks exactly like free market competition. Consolidation will come eventually, as it did to Europe with Stellantis. https://www.carscoops.com/2025/09/chart-with-chinese-car-bra...
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I have one Swatch automatic which can not be opened or serviced or repaired. Sistem 51. Once you're out of warranty you're done. Meanwhile my dad's 40 year old Swiss automatic has been serviced just 2 times, and the last time was 10 years ago when the integrated bracelet broke.
You probably should be getting the automatic serviced every 10 years. That basically involves cleaning it, replacing the mainspring, and applying new lubricant. If it's a dive watch, they would also replace the gaskets which dry out.
He had fashioned a strap for the watch using a piece of rubber when the bracelet broke and was perfectly happy with that unsightly arrangement.
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> Which kind of confirms everyone's suspicions about EU regulations... they're just foreign company shakedowns under the guise of "protecting the consumer." Zero evidence was provided to support this, but I guess facts don't matter anymore.
> Zero evidence was provided to support this, but I guess facts don't matter anymore. What do you think the whole thread was about? Apple makes a proprietary connector: anti-consumer behavior according to the EU. Use a standard connector or get fined to oblivion. BMW makes a proprietary, patented _screw_: perfectly acceptable according to the EU. Are you being intentionally obtuse here or what? The proof is that you…
This was not reactive behavior to Apple on the part of the EU, the legislation was agreed long time ago and there was a period until which all manufacturers had to adapt. Zero evidence.
> BMW makes a proprietary, patented _screw_: perfectly acceptable according to the EU.
Car (parts) market is a different one, different rules apply. Additionally it was not proven there will be no aftermarket availability of the parts. There is no proof, I am sorry.
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Because people lie and still give you 1 star rating perhaps.
The same people, the ones prone to tinkering with their cars, might give you a one star rating for putting the car together with proprietary screws.
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You probably should be getting the automatic serviced every 10 years. That basically involves cleaning it, replacing the mainspring, and applying new lubricant. If it's a dive watch, they would also replace the gaskets which dry out.
The last time I persuaded him to give it for service he complained that the service cost was 3x what he had paid for the watch in the first place. For months. He had fashioned a strap for the watch using a piece of rubber when the bracelet broke and was perfectly happy with that unsightly arrangement.
Luckily for him, the market for watches is big and when he finally needs something new he has a lot to choose from. The watches on the low end are better than ever and the watches on the high end are excellent but crazy expensive.
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#119Yeah: thanks, that's a clear patent on not having me as a customer then
If you crash into a BMW, you'll still have to pay for the now-inflated cost of the repair - most likely through the mandatory liability insurance. Insurance premiums have gone through the roof, to a big part not just due to insurance company greed but because cars and repairs to them became more expensive.
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>The idea that a carmaker would purposely engineer flaws into core engine components in order to drive future sales doesn’t make much sense. You need to realize modern business revolves not around one-and-done, but around recurring revenue streams. To the "business minded" the only thing that doesn't make sense is leaving money on the table.
Selling people grenading engines is not a great way to build recurring revenue streams. And building performant, efficient, and reliable engines is hard enough without intentional sabotage
Wanna start a car company?