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Re: Coarse is better

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Post by goopypoop »

card_zero wrote: post #59
nehal3m wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really like Cory Doctorow’s description of why it feels empty, quote: “Herein lies the problem with AI art. Just like with a law school letter of reference generated from three bullet points, the prompt given to an AI to produce creative writing or an image is the sum total of the communicative intent infused into the work. The prompter has a big, numinous, irreducible feeling and they want to infuse it into a work…

OK, but then there's the possibility of reestablishing the bandwidth by selecting the output. If the artist selects one AI image from hundreds, that's like photography, or collage, or "found sculpture" if you can dig it. Then we can do away with the need for hundreds of versions by saying that the artist selected this image from among all the assorted sights seen during the day to frame as art and present to the view…

art without will is like street vomit: it might be pretty but it's just lumps of old content arranged how you'd expect. less than food; more a waste than a triumph. and it always smells the same.

the street vomit photographer is offering a bit more art through his choices but I can already see he makes poor choices

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Post by juggy69 »

speedgoose wrote: post #78
yoan9224 wrote: post #66

The author's prompts are fighting against what Nano Banana was optimized for. Saying "British Museum" to MJv2 worked because it blurred all images tagged with museums into the aesthetic. NBP interprets it literally: show me something IN a museum. This isn't worse - it's different. MJv2 was a happy accident machine. NBP is a precision tool. If you want the coarse aesthetic, prompt for it: "rough brushstrokes, visible…

Thanks ChatGPT. I’m wondering about the motivation to spam HN with LLM generated comments. Not the worst comments though.

Have to agree that is sounds GPT-generated. Why so many colons? And the incurable marketing-speak.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by seph-reed »

I had similar feelings with art generation. The early midjourney was definitely impressionistic, and I just kind of like impressionism. It's cool how accurate these have become, but they also feel closer to uncanny or boring.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by stephantul »

cryzinger wrote: post #95
stephantul wrote: post #73

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Where did you get this from? Searching for it, in a weird irony I guess, just leads me back to this post.

I recognize it as a quote from A Year With Swollen Appendices, which is a great read even if you aren't an Eno fan (although I am, which admittedly makes me biased :P)

Thank you! I’ll check that out

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by DrammBA »

flexagoon wrote: post #108
speedgoose wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks ChatGPT. I’m wondering about the motivation to spam HN with LLM generated comments. Not the worst comments though.

I don't think that comment is LLM generated. I would've certainly written it like that myself.

> It's not X - it's Y, it's Z.

> Consider: consideration. That's what you should consider.

Come on man

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by speedgoose »

flexagoon wrote: post #108
speedgoose wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks ChatGPT. I’m wondering about the motivation to spam HN with LLM generated comments. Not the worst comments though.

I don't think that comment is LLM generated. I would've certainly written it like that myself.

Check the account comments history. A lot of good comments of a similar length posted very closely in time. I don’t think a human can write that well, so quickly, on so many topics.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by atoav »

"This is somewhat better, but why is it so drab and colourless? Is the machine trying to make me depressed?"

They asked the machine to produce a picture from a dystopian place and somehow expected the machine to know they like it to be colorful? Just tell the machine it needs to be colorful if that is what you want.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by p4bl0 »

With a title like this I was expecting an interesting discussion about pour over coffee. Titles should probably be edited when they're this vague.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by coldtea »

tim333 wrote: post #104
coldtea wrote: post #91

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> Every time we automate something the luddites cry out about the coming mass unemployment. It has never happened It has happened each and every time, it just haven't affected you personally. Starting of course with the original luddites - they didn't complain out of some philosophical opposition to automation. Each time in changes like this a huge number of people lost their jobs and took big hits in their quality o…

Strictly speaking outsourcing to cheap labour isn't automation.

Strickly speaking yes, I say the "switch to service and digital economies and outsourcing" though, which also includes lots of automation, but also because it's not just automation where people say removes jobs and others say it's fine, but also switches to different kinds of economy (which see the same arguments).

For the purposes of the discussion, even considering automation and outsourcing alone, the effect is the same though: the human job dissapears from the local market, but the company still gets the thing made.

Re: Coarse is better

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Post by tete »

Not sure, about the Kowloon Walled City, but that picture reminded me of the empty square in the Walled City.

There aren't many pictures of it, but my mind jumped to that right away. I think I've seen a documentary where it looks a lot more similar.

In particular that hallway in the middle, where I remember that there was a statue kind of as a worship place. And on the right side of that dark halway there is what appears to be a statue.

Sadly all I was able to find were these:

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/...

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fz...

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd....

Given these and that it changed over its history I think it's kind of a stretch to just say "it looks nothing like the Kowloon Walled City".

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