How does Tesla FSD respond to inactive traffic control lights?
Treats it as a four way stop. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_eu/GUID-A701F7D...
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Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams
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#112From John Ripley on Mastodon: “Thought of the day, and I wish there were a way to get this to legislators: Come the next Big One earthquake, all of San Francisco’s emergency services will be blocked by Waymos.” I’m AMAZED they’re not designed to handle this better. This does indeed seem like a massive problem. “Oops we give up” right when things get the worst? How is this OK? I’ve been very impressed by Waymo’s more…
> Come the next Big One earthquake, all of San Francisco’s emergency services will be blocked by Waymos Were any emergency vehicles actually blocked? We have an actual failure here–step one is identifying actual failures so we can distinguish what really happened from what hypothetically could.
A fire truck can simply push the waymo out of the way.
Re: Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams
#113From John Ripley on Mastodon: “Thought of the day, and I wish there were a way to get this to legislators: Come the next Big One earthquake, all of San Francisco’s emergency services will be blocked by Waymos.” I’m AMAZED they’re not designed to handle this better. This does indeed seem like a massive problem. “Oops we give up” right when things get the worst? How is this OK? I’ve been very impressed by Waymo’s more…
I would just push them all out of the way with my fire truck, I mean one fire truck could probably clear 6-8 Waymos at a time, right?
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#114"San Francisco Mayor Daniel Lurie warned residents to stay off the roads unless they needed to travel."
Sure, I go out and drive around on the roads for no reason all the time. I'll avoid doing that during the crisis.
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#115Did anybody get stranded on the bart?
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#116Seems like a power outage is a an obvious use case Waymo should have foreseen. Makes me think there are likely other obvious use cases they haven’t thought about proactively either.
Yeah, I was shocked by this. Blackouts in California aren’t some sort of rare event. I’m primed to expect rolling brownouts/blackouts yearly in the summer.
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#117"San Francisco Mayor Daniel Lurie warned residents to stay off the roads unless they needed to travel." Sure, I go out and drive around on the roads for no reason all the time. I'll avoid doing that during the crisis.
I did when I was younger (18-25). Exploring the world outside of my hometown often put me at ease when I was feeling destabilized.
Re: Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams
#118Seems like a power outage is a an obvious use case Waymo should have foreseen. Makes me think there are likely other obvious use cases they haven’t thought about proactively either.
> Seems like a power outage is a an obvious use case Waymo should have foreseen
We have zero evidence a power outage wasn't foreseen. This looks like a more complex multi-system failure.
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#119Anybody on the ground confirm if it was the traffic lights or lack of cellular that cussed the stoppages?
I didn’t notice a lack of cellular. Though it did get down to like 6Mbps, which was certainly degraded service.
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#120Seems like a power outage is a an obvious use case Waymo should have foreseen. Makes me think there are likely other obvious use cases they haven’t thought about proactively either.
Yeah, I was shocked by this. Blackouts in California aren’t some sort of rare event. I’m primed to expect rolling brownouts/blackouts yearly in the summer.
There haven't been rolling blackouts since 2001.