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Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by Razengan »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #100
drsim wrote: post #82

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Distribution has always been monetized. What margin did a retailer take for putting your boxed software on the shelf? How about that magazine ad? Google search? And so on. Get over the idea that a platform should give you their distribution for free. The problem comes when there is no way for you to own the distribution, pay nothing to the platform, and still be able to build on top of it. That’s the closed portion w…

> Distribution has always been monetized. What margin did a retailer take for putting your boxed software on the shelf? How about that magazine ad? Google search? And so on. Get over the idea that a platform should give you their distribution for free. As 'amelius said below, there used to be more platforms. This matters, because it made for a different balance of power. Especially with retailers - the producers typi…

> This matters, because it made for a different balance of power.

In actual practice, it just means that users get fucked from every side: You have 100 different "launchers", just like the 1000 toolbars in the internet's early days. You have to keep track of 100 different emails, accounts, recurring bills and all sorts of shit.

You'd have to be naive as heck to believe corporations fighting against a platform's monopoly are benefactors who want distribution of power and access for the benefit of users, instead of mobsters wanting a cut of each user's pie.

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by WhyOhWhyQ »

simianwords wrote: post #65
WhyOhWhyQ wrote: post #52

What's the benefit in giving free labor to Sam Ctrlman beyond what he's already extracted? And are they just going to steal whatever good apps get submitted?

Zero sum mentality is tiring!

The mentality I actually have goes beyond zero sum. I get zero and Sam gets all. Tell me why that's wrong.

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by WhyOhWhyQ »

simianwords wrote: post #113
WhyOhWhyQ wrote: post #112

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The mentality I actually have goes beyond zero sum. I get zero and Sam gets all. Tell me why that's wrong.

you get chatgpt

Who cares if chatgpt can write my essay if writing my essay is no longer worth doing?

Do you think programming Doom from scratch in 2025 would give the programmer the same sense of satisfaction and material security as it did in the 90's? Maybe technology progressing actually devalues the rewards for your outputs?

And saying "chatgpt" is pretty rich considering it's not at all clear at this point whether the societal benefits outweigh the negatives.

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by hereme888 »

wdroz wrote: post #79

> All submissions must come from verified individuals or organizations. Inside the OpenAI Platform Dashboard general settings, we provide a way to confirm your identity and affiliation with any business you wish to publish on behalf of. Misrepresentation, hidden behavior, or attempts to game the system may result in removal from the program. They really want your ID

Remember when Sam Altman went around the world scanning people's irises with an orb-like object, to differentiate them from future AI, in exchange for fake money?

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by simianwords »

WhyOhWhyQ wrote: post #114
simianwords wrote: post #113

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you get chatgpt

Who cares if chatgpt can write my essay if writing my essay is no longer worth doing? Do you think programming Doom from scratch in 2025 would give the programmer the same sense of satisfaction and material security as it did in the 90's? Maybe technology progressing actually devalues the rewards for your outputs? And saying "chatgpt" is pretty rich considering it's not at all clear at this point whether the societal…

People like ChatGPT even if you don’t.

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by WhyOhWhyQ »

simianwords wrote: post #117
WhyOhWhyQ wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who cares if chatgpt can write my essay if writing my essay is no longer worth doing? Do you think programming Doom from scratch in 2025 would give the programmer the same sense of satisfaction and material security as it did in the 90's? Maybe technology progressing actually devalues the rewards for your outputs? And saying "chatgpt" is pretty rich considering it's not at all clear at this point whether the societal…

People like ChatGPT even if you don’t.

And..? People also hate ChatGPT even if you don't.

Do you think everyone in the world thinks exactly the same way as you do or something? Some people actually enjoy exerting their talents to create things.

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by array_key_first »

almostgotcaught wrote: post #97
kgwgk wrote: post #90

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> much like utility companies providing electricity/water A capital intensive, low margin business. The dream of every company.

You can always depend on "brilliant" hn users to contribute the most braindead business hot-takes (not you but the person you're responding to).

Well after a certain point people have to smell the roses, so to speak. You don't get to control your business 100%, the market tells you what to do a lot of the time.

I think, the reality is, as models become more competitive they are becoming commodities. There's really no reason an app has to be built on GPT, or Gemini. It makes much more sense for apps to be "model agnostic" and let their customers choose which models to use.

I think, if OpenAI sticks to just trying to make their own apps for everything, they will be outrun. People will make apps outside of their ecosystem and will just use them as an API dumb pipe, regardless of if OpenAI wants that. And if they don't want that and restrict it, then their models will fall to the wayside as more competitive models which DO allow that take their place.

They're in a bind here, which is probably why we are seeing this announcement. OpenAI can see the writing on the wall for them.

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by [deleted] »

tyre wrote: post #15

What I really want from Anthropic, Gemini, and ChatGPT is for users to be able to log in with them, using their tokens. Then you can have open/free apps that don’t require the developer to track usage or burn through tons of tokens to demonstrate value. Most users aren’t going to manage API keys, know that that even means, or accept the friction.

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