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Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by dijit »

Uehreka wrote: post #94
DeepYogurt wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is 100% the why.

Whenever I see this much vehement agreement about something on HN, it sets off serious groupthink alarm bells. Idk what the answer is, but it is not 100% this. It’s too simple and satisfying of an answer to be true.

I understand what you mean, but it does match MBA/mckinsey thinking very closely.

Make a metric a goal, work tirelessly towards that new metric.

Does it make the product better? Well, the product is already made- so it doesn’t make a difference.

It’s only software developers who think a product is never “done”- normal MBA thinking is “we have invested in R&D, now there is a product, how do we get as many users of our product as possible”.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by iguessthislldo »

112233 wrote: post #104
baby_souffle wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> has been on their TVs for a long time. It's not just LG! They keep trying to shove "a return channel" into the latest ATSC standards for DRM and "enhanced / more accurate ratings".

How do I check the TV in store does not have modem with esim? Or at least detect and disable embedded cell modems at home?

The average person willingly connects them to their wifi, why would TV makers go through the effort and expense? Maybe I'm being too optimistic though...

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by Animats »

Is it always listening? If not now, can it be changed to always be listening by a remote update? Can that update be selectively sent to certain users? Who controls which users?

It sees you when you're sleeping.

It knows when you're awake.

It knows if you've been bad or good

So be good for goodness sake.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by animuchan »

arjie wrote: post #106

It could be worse. You could have Alexa on your Samsung OLED TV that triggers in response to something random you say while watching your TV then self-cancels but leaves the TV in a no-audio state until you power-cycle it (standby to live will not suffice).

Oh I know this bug! Happens with their own Bixby assistant too.

(Either Samsung dropped the ball on quality in the last 5-10 years, or I just started to pay attention, but the desire to throw this garbage in the bin is real.)

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by dsp_person »

KetoManx64 wrote: post #100
reactordev wrote: post #77

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You can absolutely jailbreak them and install whatever

*If you have one that hasn't updated itself since last year.

Ya I regret updating mine. The UI both significantly slowed down, and lost the chance to root :(

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by dsp_person »

Johanx64 wrote: post #88
killerstorm wrote: post #53

FFS. When I bought LG OLED TV, it was quite snappy. A year later, it asked to update webOS. OK. Now we are crawling through molasses... All TV software seems appears to be an absolute fucking scam.

Why are people still connecting their TVs to the internet? I thought this is already common wisdom for people in tech for decades to NEVER connect your TV to the internet, not even once.

it's pretty tempting when it's one of the few ways to watch 4k netflix and the likes

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by liquidise »

kankerlijer wrote: post #59
sangeeth96 wrote: post #50

For similar reasons many years back when I broke the bank for a G2, I decided to disconnect it forever. Besides the always-on spyware, every update broke something, which is incredibly frustrating considering the amount I spent. For instance, I got a GX soundbar for free with the TV which worked fine for 1–2 months until some update borked it and made it glitch out randomly. To date, none of their updates seem to hav…

Is it possible to use an LG without ever connecting it to the internet in the first place?

Yes. You can install firmware updates over usb.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by lxgr »

112233 wrote: post #104
baby_souffle wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> has been on their TVs for a long time. It's not just LG! They keep trying to shove "a return channel" into the latest ATSC standards for DRM and "enhanced / more accurate ratings".

How do I check the TV in store does not have modem with esim? Or at least detect and disable embedded cell modems at home?

Bluetooth is enough, theoretically, if they have an agreement with Amazon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk

And most TVs these days have Bluetooth.

ATSC 3.0 also specifies a dedicated long-range return channel with a range of many kilometers.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by lxgr »

rockskon wrote: post #98
tzs wrote: post #24

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Those are completely separate. "Live Plus" is a TV setting that has nothing to do with Copilot and has been on their TVs for a long time.

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Of course you can be angry at whoever you want, but it seems more productive to be angry at the entity actually causing the thing you dislike.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by happymellon »

stackghost wrote: post #109
happymellon wrote: post #93

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I've had this with Android updates. When you remove my ability to see if a Bluetooth device is connected with a security update, why would I willingly install any more of your updates?

Which update are you referring to? I don't have this behavior on my Pixel, which updated itself yesterday.

It was the Samsung Android 15 update from earlier this year.

https://www.reddit.com/r/samsunggalaxy/comments/1kjjeqo/how_...

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