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LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Wouldn't not connecting it online and using a google tv box fix this issue ?

I’ve used some of my friends more recent year TVs and even if they’re not networked the UX is just horrible. One Samsung model eliminated the “input” button on the remote and forces you to go through “Home” to select inputs in a tiled menu festooned with quick tips and baked in ads for Samsung stuff like SmartThings. The worst part is that if it detects an input is connected to a game console, then it moves that inpu…

One thing you could try is to get a third party remote. The input switching functionality may still exist and be reachable. At least, it worked for mine.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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post #61

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The management of reddit doesn't seem to use reddit at all and they seem to be unaware of the fact that a) the "new" layout just isn't that great, and b) their mobile app is terrible. They killed third-party apps, which were way better than their garbage app and they don't seem to realize how much it annoys their users.

I disagree, I think the new layout and the app are bad for Reddit power users. But for someone brand new to Reddit today they work fine. And that’s the point. They care about boosting their user base, not satisfying power users.

Sigh, power user doesn't mean the individual is an alien with some quirky taste. Oh, the contrary. It means someone who has a wider spectrum and those who are not power users are still on the spectrum, but theirs is shorter, but overlap with the PU's. So if it is good for the power users it is almost always good for the rest of the world. Let that sink in.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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post #61

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The management of reddit doesn't seem to use reddit at all and they seem to be unaware of the fact that a) the "new" layout just isn't that great, and b) their mobile app is terrible. They killed third-party apps, which were way better than their garbage app and they don't seem to realize how much it annoys their users.

I thank them for that, because forcing me back to their horrid app broke me of my habit of hanging out there. I’ve got six digits of karma, and I’d rather walk away than suffer through its awful UI.

Same. Only thing that ever managed to break me of my reddit habit. No 3rd party apps? Reddit may as well no longer exist as far as I'm concerned.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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I don't know why my sense of ethical outrage over the cancerous spread of this worthless garbage technology doesn't extend so hard to LG in this. But I've finally just hit the wall with Microsoft. Between all the forced account sign-ins, ads, random reboots and updates that aren't for the purpose of securing the OS...I'm done.

I haven't seen this level of anti-consumer nonsense from Microsoft since the late 90s when lots of circles called them Micro$oft.

It's a shame since Satya Nadella came in and made a lot of right moves. Support for Linux, open source, etc. I could stretch myself to forgive the other stuff as some kind of wrong headed thinking about a cloud-first strategy. But in the last few years that productive pivot stopped and the company moved back into high-risk money grab steps.

My current daily driver is a Windows machine, but my last few builds around the house have all been some kind of Linux. Last year I moved my home server infrastructure over. I kept a windows VM around for a few things but it ultimately corrupted itself and was replaced by a Linux VM that's been chugging along just fine.

I think when I rebuild my home desktop sometime next year Windows gets relegated to a "run when needed" VM. I've really only kept it around for games and a few other Windows only software but those days are fast fading thanks to numerous efforts by Valve and others and a fallback VM for other stuff works fine in my experience elsewhere.

I think I don't have the same concerns about LG because the relationship with me as the consumer seems different somehow, and I simply expect less from them?

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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post #34

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I have shitty eyesight and old is the only version that’s usable to me because text zooming works far better in the old layout. Are you using a screen reader by any chance?

Screen reader is not available on Safari for old reddit. Also zooming the font is not working: I have to scroll a lot and the layout grt all broken.

Oh. TIL, sorry for pushing back

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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So...?

I only read the reddit comments down to the point where the slanted lines became mildly infuriating and switched new reddit to continue, and there only down to the "view more comments" button, and didn't see anyone saying what Copilot actually does on the TV.

The comments seemed to all be about the nefarious things people were speculating it could be doing, how to block smart TVs from updating, etc., and that's also how the comments here are going.

A bit of research suggests that it is just another app. If you don't open it it won't be doing anything. If you open it you can use it as a virtual assistant to do things like check the weather, search streaming service for content, and that sort of thing.

Is there any indication it does more?

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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I think them sneaking in and turning on that LivePlus feature is far more nefarious. The fact they can track whatever you watch and do to serve you personalized ads is insane.

This is matching the levels of surveillance in north Korea. They also have software that takes pictures of your screen every few seconds.

It does this for HDMI inputs as well, BTW.

Using such a TV as a computer monitor sounds dicey. There will eventually be a data breach of the uploaded screenshots, assuming they aren't able to fingerprint entirely on device.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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As a proud member of the LGTV community (yes I'm making 2 of those kinds of jokes back to back, fight me), and an occasional reddit user, I'm both horrified by the notion of getting this update and thrilled people are still using old.reddit.com. The new layout, which isn't even new anymore, still falls very short for it I'm looking something up and it's buried in a comment thread where ctrl-f can't find it.

The management of reddit doesn't seem to use reddit at all and they seem to be unaware of the fact that a) the "new" layout just isn't that great, and b) their mobile app is terrible. They killed third-party apps, which were way better than their garbage app and they don't seem to realize how much it annoys their users.

Not all third-party readers, the for-profit ones.

Red Reader still exists.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedReader/

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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post #86
post #61

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The management of reddit doesn't seem to use reddit at all and they seem to be unaware of the fact that a) the "new" layout just isn't that great, and b) their mobile app is terrible. They killed third-party apps, which were way better than their garbage app and they don't seem to realize how much it annoys their users.

They don't care about their users, they trapped people in and people aren't migrating to alternatives in droves.

Time for a reverse Digg exodus.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

#120
post #29

We need a Framework-style company making TVs. Get the OLED panels from whoever makes them wholesale, spend on a beautiful enclosure / design, add just enough software to calibrate the image and switch between HDMI inputs with HDMI-CEC. Sell a premium soundbar as an add-on instead of including speakers in the base device. I think a brand like Sonos could make a killing in this market selling a premium dumb tv to high…

>and switch between HDMI inputs with HDMI-CEC.

And please include DisplayPort inputs.

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