Sounds like a good plan to improve the tourism industry of other countries.
US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are allowed to say it. Unlike UK, you won’t be arrested. But you won’t be allowed in. Besides, why would you want to come if you don’t like it here?
Who is being arrested in the UK?
- Jon Richelieu-Booth for posting a picture of himself with a gun in the US
- Jordan Parlour for Facebook posts that were deemed ‘hateful.’
- Bernadette Spofforth for a post with a “mild inaccuracy”
- Maxie Allen and Rosalind Levine, after raising concerns in a private parents’ WhatsApp group about the hiring process of their daughter’s school
- Lucy Connolly, for a post calling for mass deportation and to set fire to hotels housing immigrants
- Norbert Gyurcsik, for having “extreme right wing music”
Germany, you too.
Re: US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then just say that. Customs has some list that's automatically generated based on a Google search or something like that, and all they're doing is trying to catch you lying. Like the TSA, this screening is done by the lowest common denominator of government employee to catch the lowest common denominator of terrorist or foreign subversive.
> to catch the lowest common denominator of terrorist or foreign subversive My guess from the outside, is that none of these actions are actually meant to "capture" or even "detect" any of those things, the methods are likely to inefficient and small to be able to do so. What they're trying to do, is make those people not even consider going to the US in the first place, because they're scared of getting caught. Same…
They have managed to scare me off at least. So I will spend my money elsewhere.
Re: US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry
#114I'm going to assume it's then going to be considered suspicious if you don't happen to have any social media for at least the last 5 years ?
There's no right to entry at US borders; you can be arbitrarily refused (or much worse) for any subjective suspicion. (And you are misled by assumptions of privilege, any readers who think this could never happen to you. Your social non-conformity (rejection of social media) is quirky and geeky and completely harmless ; and surely the nice government man will understand this).
I couldn't care less about that privilege. I would rather stay away.
Re: US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are allowed to say it. Unlike UK, you won’t be arrested. But you won’t be allowed in. Besides, why would you want to come if you don’t like it here?
>Besides, why would you want to come if you don’t like it here? There's a difference between saying that you disagree with the way that a country is being run, and wanting to be violent or pursue criminal activity against that country or its people. What you're missing is that the former should be legal in any democracy (and is in the UK), and the latter shouldn't be legal anywhere (and isn't in the UK). You're claim…
'You're claiming the UK lacks "freedom of speech" because it doesn't allow people to incite violence online, while saying the USA has free speech, despite it seemingly rejecting visitors for legal political speech.'
Voicing support for the group Palestine Action has been met with quite harsh responses in the UK, even though that group is arguably non-violent in that its criminal actions are directed towards property with the aim of slowing actual violence.
There are other similar developments in UK state policy.
Re: US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry
#116I'm going to assume it's then going to be considered suspicious if you don't happen to have any social media for at least the last 5 years ?
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Re: US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Besides, why would you want to come if you don’t like it here? Family, work, others in the group who enjoy it, the level of enjoyment might still be above the level of frustration, wanting to help, emergencies, etc. I could think of many reasons one would want to go to a country even though you disagree with ~50% the population + current leaders. I've been in North Korea as an example, but I'd never claim to suppor…
If I was speaking badly about you in social media, I would understand it if you don’t want me at your house.
Criticizing fascists isn’t “speaking badly” of the US or of american people. A vast majority of people aren’t happy about what’s going on.
Re: US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
> to catch the lowest common denominator of terrorist or foreign subversive My guess from the outside, is that none of these actions are actually meant to "capture" or even "detect" any of those things, the methods are likely to inefficient and small to be able to do so. What they're trying to do, is make those people not even consider going to the US in the first place, because they're scared of getting caught. Same…
They have managed to scare me off at least. So I will spend my money elsewhere.
Good thing international tourism counts for only about half of a percent of U.S. GDP: https://wttc.org/news/us-economy-set-to-lose-12-5bn-in-inter...
Re: US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then just say that. Customs has some list that's automatically generated based on a Google search or something like that, and all they're doing is trying to catch you lying. Like the TSA, this screening is done by the lowest common denominator of government employee to catch the lowest common denominator of terrorist or foreign subversive.
How could this be weaponised against someone you don't like? How easy is it to set up a account under someone else's name, post a bunch of inflammatory opinions, AI some photos of them at a Free Palestine rally, and then sit back and await the inevitable border crossing horror story? Mental note: Research yourself (and your traveling companions) thoroughly before visiting the US.
Yes, significant potential for such mischief with this system.
Re: US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are allowed to say it. Unlike UK, you won’t be arrested. But you won’t be allowed in. Besides, why would you want to come if you don’t like it here?
>Besides, why would you want to come if you don’t like it here? There's a difference between saying that you disagree with the way that a country is being run, and wanting to be violent or pursue criminal activity against that country or its people. What you're missing is that the former should be legal in any democracy (and is in the UK), and the latter shouldn't be legal anywhere (and isn't in the UK). You're claim…
> You're claiming the UK lacks "freedom of speech" because it doesn't allow people to incite violence online, while saying the USA has free speech, despite it seemingly rejecting visitors for legal political speech.
Free speech means the country must tolerate what citizens say; it does not mean the country can't exercise its discretion over its borders to bar entry to foreigners who say things citizens don't like.