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Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by KetoManx64 »

clhodapp wrote: post #6
komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

They were ejected because they submitted some seriously broken patches, which triggered kind of a panic re-review of their previous patches, which concluded that they had been careless the whole time (Chesterton's Fence type stuff). The political stuff is just an extra bonus.

I keep hating this but nobody has ever linked to the supposed broken packages. With how political RedHat is I would not be surprised one bit if it was completely overblown and exaggerated just so they could use it as an excuse to kick out someone who's politics they didn't like. Same thing has happened multiple times in the last few years (Hyprland is just one notable example)

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by myvoiceismypass »

russfink wrote: post #24

If it matters, many of their issues were apparently closed without comment. Here is an issue asking to resolve this. It also lists many of the commits. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/work_items/182...

It is explained in the very link you provided:

> From a technical perspective, as someone who had previously been merging the MR's from that author, there are also a number of technical reasons we'd slowed down on merging them and started rejecting more of the MR's - most notably it becoming increasingly obvious that the MR's were untested and breaking things. Many of the MR's already have technical objections in them to the changes, and many have no benefit other than refactoring the code to make it easier for future changes he had planned, but now will not contribute to us, so would cause code churn and risk for no remaining reason.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by mghackerlady »

I'm conflicted. On one hand, I hate this guys politics (despite agreeing that projects should be based on merit) and from what I've heard of Xlibre I'm not super impressed by the code quality. On the other, I think X11 deserves to stick around as it is an objectively superior display technology that has been used since the 80s for a reason, despite its issues. Yes, the security is terrible by default. I also somewhat agree with killing x.org as from what I've heard the codebase is a mess. If I had all the time (and money) in the world I would either make my own X11 server unencumbered by freedesktop.org or make a display technology that fixes the problems of X11 and Wayland by fixing the security model, not being designed by committee, and being free of Waylands Linux-isms
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