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People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows

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Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows

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Why can't a monetized OS also be FOSS?

Because the monetization wouldn't work; anyone can just recompile the FOSS code and legally distribute a free build and users & PC manufacturers would flock to that.

That's already how it is, and yet the majority choose to pay for the convenience of two proprietary systems. We still haven't seen a FOSS offering that's well-suited for the typical end user IMHO.

Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows

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And I bet Apple doesn't conveniently change settings in favor of data collection on a regular basis. I switched back to Linux after a few decades on Windows for work. Been back on Linux for a few months now, and haven't had any problems. My computer doesn't randomly restart (most updates don't require restart at all). No one is trying to push telemetry, half-assed AI, or OS ads on me either. So much better now on Lin…

> I bet Apple doesn't conveniently change settings in favor of data collection on a regular basis Not to the level of Microsoft, but initially Apple Intelligence would default to on and you'd have to disable it (thankfully it needs to download gigabytes worth of ML models, which gives you a few minutes after initial OS install to toggle it off before it activates). For a while after every OS update you'd also have an…

My personal solution for my Macbook, which hasn't failed yet, is to simply wait a year or two to apply OS updates. In this case, I'm extending that to "never". I'll take my chances with the script kiddies, who have way fewer resources to infect my machine with malware than my OS vendor apparently does.

Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows

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It's not toxic to not offer infinite support for a platform you don't have familiarity with. Just like if you are vegan it's not toxic to refuse to prepare a meaty hamburger. Yes, a toxic version of this exists, but simply refusing to do a thing isn't toxic.

So we compare living creatures killing with helping to setup a wi-fi.

Sometimes setting up wi-fi feels like it requires an animal sacrifice to the elder gods.

Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows

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I've been a Linux user without Windows for longer than I can remember. My biggest worry is Linux dominates the market because a FOSS OS can't dominate the market. A capitalist market won't allow it. Of course though, if say Ubuntu was heavily monetized in some way, then it simply becomes the new Windows and the FOSS community will simply present an alternative. I'm sorry you had to go on this circular journey with me…

Why can't a monetized OS also be FOSS?

I mean, Elementary OS exists... but it doesn't seem to be very popular for some reason.

Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows

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Why? I’ve been using Unix workstations since the motif days through gnome whatever, but and every single one has seemed clunky as heck compared to the contemporaneous windows. Win 11 file explorer is 20 years ahead of nautilus. Not to mention all of the other windows perks like HiDPI & multi-monitor scaling polish, rdp, vastly superior accessibility, … And you can run wsl2 if you need to.

Linux doesn't spy on you, though, or install rootkits against your will.

Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows

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I really hope they are successful. But I'm not holding my breath.

Also even if it works the too cheap to meter thing seems unlikely with fusion. Solar on the other hand is showing signs of that when it's sunny.

Three states in Australia are implementing a requirement that energy companies offer free electricity for the three peak daylight hours of the day (likely 11am to 2pm) as of July next year.

https://techcrunch.com/2025/11/05/millions-to-receive-free-e...

https://www.pv-magazine-australia.com/2025/11/04/electricity...

Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows

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I've been hearing about how Linux is going to replace Windows for at least 2 decades now. I expect it to finally happen some time after we get 'too cheap to meter' fusion power.

Aside: "too cheap to meter" got killed by inexpensive metering more than anything else. Metering used to be expensive, but computers have made it trivial.

Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows

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> Hahahahaha Speaking as a Linux desktop dev, that one's right. We have a lot of homework left to do, and accessibility is an area both Windows and MacOS are more fully-featured and mature in. Part of treating users really well is also being honest about our shortcomings (and fixing them).

I don't think there is anything more accessible than lines of text in a grid. Maybe you don't need to make every button of every GUI program ever accessible.

I doubt a blind or very nearsighted user would appreciate your lines of text in a grid very much.

Re: People keep flocking to Linux, not just to escape Windows

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What on earth are you talking about? There is no "excessive dependency of Microsoft systems on servers in the US", and even if there is typial consumers are not aware and do not care. And if they did what does server software have to do with end user OS choices?

What on earth are you talking about? Digital sovereignty is a growing concern, and Microsoft (as well as most corp/proprietary tech) is ever increasing online dependencies, to servers that they control. Even typical end users are starting to notice a bad smell.

I think it's the "servers in the US" part. I think Microsoft has plenty of servers outside the US. However the main point is not the location of the servers but the fact that Microsoft as the operating system / service provider is under the thumb of US law no matter where the servers happen to reside.

Which is, as you say, an issue of digital (data) sovereignty.

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