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Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by cultofmetatron »

incognito124 wrote: post #7

Watched it a while ago. Made me seriously think about AI and what we should use it for. I feel like all the entertainment use cases (image and video gen) are a complete waste.

unfortunately all this work on sora has very real military use case. I personally think all this investment in sora by open AI is largely to create a digital fog of war. Now when a rocket splatters a 6 year old palestinian girl's head across the pavement like a jackson polock painting, They will be able to claim its AI generated by state sponsored actors in order to prevent disruption to the manufactured consent aperatus.

Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

theturtletalks wrote: post #101
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but AlphaFold is still probably the most impactful and positive thing to have come out of "Deep Learning" so far.

Didn’t the transformer model come from AlphaFold? I feel like we wouldn’t have had the LLMs we use today if it wasn’t for AlphaFold.

The Transformer was invented at Google, but by a different team. AFAIK the original AlphaFold didn't use a transformer, but AlphaFold 2.0 and 3.0 do.

Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by ipnon »

nightski wrote: post #29

In my experience all DeepMind content ends up being a puff piece for Dennis Hassabis. It's like his personal marketing engine lol.

He's the leading AI researcher at the 3rd largest company in the world in the middle of an AI boom. He's naturally going to have quite the marketing budget behind him!

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Post by CamperBob2 »

wasmainiac wrote: post #83
threethirtytwo wrote: post #75

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If AI can produce movies, video and art better aka “more entertaining” then humans than how is it a waste?

But it’s not. I think most can agree that there really has not been any real entertainment from genAI beyond novelty crap like seeing Lincoln pulling a nice track at a skate park. No one wants to watch genAI slop video, no one wants to listen to genAI video essays, most people do not want to read genAI blog posts. Music is a maybe, based on leaderboards, but it is not like we ever had a lack of music to listen to.

Eventually it will be good enough that you won't know the difference.

I have a feeling that's already happened to me.

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Post by aoeusnth1 »

incognito124 wrote: post #38
echelon wrote: post #35

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None of that has reached the market yet. If it was up to the sciences alone, AI couldn't bear the weight of its own costs. It also needs to be vertically integrated to make money, otherwise it's a handout to the materials science company. I can't see any of the AI companies stretching themselves that thin. So they give it away for goodwill or good PR.

That's not really true. Commercial weather prediction has reached the market, and a drug (sorry, can't find the new s link) that was found by AI-accelerated drug discovery is now in clinical testing

The reason why vertical integration is important for AI investment is that if AI is commoditized, then that AI-acceleration will costs pennies for drugs that are worth billions.

I don't see how OpenAI or Google can profit from drug discovery. It's nearly pure consumer surplus (where the drug companies and patients are the consumers).

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Post by threethirtytwo »

youngNed wrote: post #103
threethirtytwo wrote: post #75

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If AI can produce movies, video and art better aka “more entertaining” then humans than how is it a waste?

Because vast amounts of people find Coldplay entertaining. That doesn't mean it's a good thing.

You lack imagination. When ChatGPT just came out people were saying it can never code. Now if you aren’t using ai in your coding you’re biting the dust.

Stop talking about the status quo… we are talking about the projected trendline. What will AI be when it matures?

Second you’re just another demographic. Smaller than fans of Coldplay but equally generic and thus an equal target for generated art.

Here’s a prompt that will one day target you: “ChatGPT, create musical art that will target counter culture posers who think they’re better than everyone just because they like something that isn’t mainstream. Make it so different they will worship that garbage like they worship Pearl Jam. Pretend that the art is by a human so what when they finally figure out they fell for it hook line and sinker they’ll realize their counter culture tendencies are just another form of generic trash fandom no different than people who love cold play or, dare I say it, Taylor swift.”

What do you do then when this future comes to pass and all content even for posers is replicated in ways that are superior?

Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by threethirtytwo »

wasmainiac wrote: post #83
threethirtytwo wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If AI can produce movies, video and art better aka “more entertaining” then humans than how is it a waste?

But it’s not. I think most can agree that there really has not been any real entertainment from genAI beyond novelty crap like seeing Lincoln pulling a nice track at a skate park. No one wants to watch genAI slop video, no one wants to listen to genAI video essays, most people do not want to read genAI blog posts. Music is a maybe, based on leaderboards, but it is not like we ever had a lack of music to listen to.

Bro. You and your cohorts said the exact same thing about LLMs and coding when ChatGPT just came out. The status quo is obvious. So no one is talking about that.

Draw the trendline into the future. What will happen when the content is indistinguishable and AI is so good it produces something moves people to tears?

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Post by neumann »

danpalmer wrote: post #104
epolanski wrote: post #100

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ML is used in weather prediction since the 80s and is the backbone of it since almost a decade. Not sure what are LLMs supposed to do there.

No one is suggesting using LLMs for weather. DeepMind is making significant progress on weather prediction with new AI models.

oh god - please tell BoM in Australia. Either ML is not keeping up with clime change unpredictability, or SOTA is worse than what we had 10 years ago.

Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by plastic3169 »

threethirtytwo wrote: post #116
youngNed wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because vast amounts of people find Coldplay entertaining. That doesn't mean it's a good thing.

You lack imagination. When ChatGPT just came out people were saying it can never code. Now if you aren’t using ai in your coding you’re biting the dust. Stop talking about the status quo… we are talking about the projected trendline. What will AI be when it matures? Second you’re just another demographic. Smaller than fans of Coldplay but equally generic and thus an equal target for generated art. Here’s a prompt tha…

”What a way to show them. You rock! Unfortunately I can’t create the musical art you requested as you reference multiple existing musical acts by name. How about rephrasing your request in a way that is truly original and unique to you”
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