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New research highlights a shortage of male mentors for boys and young men
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Re: New research highlights a shortage of male mentors for boys and young men
#112People are going to misread the article and go off in their own direction but the problem is clearly capitalism. It's always been capitalism. Lower income boys have drastically less access to male mentors than higher income ones and the article even states this. Low family income means less options. Most of your mentors at a young age are going to come from schooling, which still generally has a gender tilt towards w…
Yes lower income boys are hit way harder, but it's not like the issue disappears at the higher end. > 72 percent of boys from households earning $100,000 or more reported having a male mentor for schoolwork. > A similar trend appeared regarding relationship advice. Only 45 percent of boys in the lowest income group had a male mentor for relationships. This compares to 67 percent of boys in the highest income group. E…
Is the assumption that 100% - or even close to it - of boys need a male mentor? How much of the remaining 28% have a female mentor?
Also, that specifies "for schoolwork." Surely there's many boys that have a male they can turn to for other things if not necessarily schoolwork
Re: New research highlights a shortage of male mentors for boys and young men
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ummm… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto seems pretty overtly against men. (It’s literally the society for cutting up men)
this is literally a handpicked "misandrist manifesto". This is absolutely not about feminism.
You said “never”. I agree that in general it’s a positive force but I think it’s insincere to claim that there has never been an anti man angle to some feminist writing.
Re: New research highlights a shortage of male mentors for boys and young men
#114This will not change anytime soon; the "women are wonderful" talk is as relevant as it has ever been. Regardless of the criteria you choose to establish a ranking, males dominate the bottom of that ranking.
We are number one on the rankings of type of people most likely to take over a country by force. Or did something change since I last saw the news?
Re: New research highlights a shortage of male mentors for boys and young men
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's been about 30 years since the "strong independent women" meme first started in popular media. Much longer than that. While there was significant pre-war feminism, it really took off in the 1960s. Perhaps what people mean is a sort of post-"Bechdel test" world, where people will be sharply criticized if they make a piece of media that only has (properly characterized) male characters. I see it as a co-existence…
lol title IX was only in the 70s. Post bechdel whatever, it was only a handful of years ago that women could finally speak out en masse about not being sexually assaulted on film and TV sets. Co-existence indeed.
> it was only a handful of years ago that women could finally speak out en masse about not being sexually assaulted on film and TV sets.
That wasn't a women-only problem, IIRC. The Hollywood casting couch (and similar problems) was used against both men and women. Some actors (like Kevin Spacey) were called out/blackballed for unwanted sexual attention/acts that they perpetrated against men.
As far as women being allowed to speak out - everyone is allowed to speak out, but the rich and influential silences people who they have left aggrieved. These include both men and women.
To put things in perspective, you joined a thread discussing a singular male-only problem, and dragged female issues into it, which, on closer inspection, turned out to be not female-exclusive anyway.
This is the problem.
Re: New research highlights a shortage of male mentors for boys and young men
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Tech already has a bad reputation in this respect and HN really isn't helping. You are part of HN, now is your chance at helping. Discussion means that you will see opinions that are plainly wrong. That's a good place to argue and present better opinions. If you don't present better opinions, no one will be convinced. If you don't voice your opinions, you might not known that they are wrong or harmful. I've voiced…
I would happily bet that I've done more to help HN and its denizens than you have. Besides, after 18 years here some things have become a little predictable.
> I would happily bet that I've done more to help HN and its denizens than you have.
I would agree, I sometimes browse your comment history for insightful comments. But it was a suggestion that you can help out some more on this specific topic.
> Besides, after 18 years here some things have become a little predictable.
Maybe that's why "the problem" is not corrected yet, because it's harder to make money on strong independent men who do everything themselves... Otherwise someone would already make an LLM to help men.
Re: New research highlights a shortage of male mentors for boys and young men
#117This will not change anytime soon; the "women are wonderful" talk is as relevant as it has ever been. Regardless of the criteria you choose to establish a ranking, males dominate the bottom of that ranking.
We are number one on the rankings of type of people most likely to take over a country by force. Or did something change since I last saw the news?
We are also number one on the ranking of saving children out of a burning building or otherwise sacrificing ourself for others. I am tired of this self-righteous self hatred.
Re: New research highlights a shortage of male mentors for boys and young men
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Absolutely untrue. Feminism has NEVER been against men. Only people who half-ass reading about feminism, and rely too much on stupid far-right videos on TikTok believe that
Ummm… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto seems pretty overtly against men. (It’s literally the society for cutting up men)
Feminist quoting Wikipedia to prove something is like a christian quoting the bible.
Re: New research highlights a shortage of male mentors for boys and young men
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
My friend’s son was four and had to have it explicitly explained to him that men can be scientists, too! Based on all the books he’d been read and other media, he assumed only women were scientists.
My son wants to be female because every super hero that's interesting to him, it's female (he is 4). We learned to coast with this, but I did complain about the lack of cool male characters for young kids: the female ones seems to be better curated and more abundant
>My son wants to be female
That's the plan