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Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by ninkendo »

supermatt wrote: post #103
yuters wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've loaded an example document and do not see what you mean when navigating between pages. A problem like that should be extremely jarring and it is very hard to believe it would be ignored.

> A problem like that should be extremely jarring Agreed - I don't see how its not glaringly obvious to anyone who uses the app: https://imgur.com/a/hZ1ja9o

Unrelated but imgur is basically malware at this point. I had to click through so many layers of nagging popups (including a “don’t support us” button, then a severely low-contrast “view in safari” button on a dialog explicitly designed to get me to accidentally click the app link), then when I finally got to your picture, any sort of interaction with the page whatsoever, including pinch-zooming to see the image, just took me away to a different page altogether.

I sincerely hate imgur and hope the whole site goes bankrupt, and I can’t stand it when anyone links to them.

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by WillAdams »

Mashimo wrote: post #71
seu wrote: post #44

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Came here to complain about the same. I downloaded the app, but it needs an online account. What's the whole purpose of making it open source and downloadable, if it doesn't work offline?

The self hosted version needs an account outside your network?

Apparently.

I'm stuck at waiting for a confirmation e-mail.

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by supermatt »

ogrisel wrote: post #108
supermatt wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the time i wasn't sure if it was PEBCAK, which is why i started a discussion in the forums. As there were no replies, i received no notifications, and so I forgot all about it. If anyone is interested in opening a bug report you can see the issue here: https://imgur.com/a/hZ1ja9o

Personally, I do not understand why you think there is a bug from this screen capture alone. Maybe because I am that familiar with penpot and figma, but still, I do not find it obvious. This is why it's important to describe explicitly the three points in text: - steps to reproduce; - what you expected to happen; - what actual result you observe instead. Something that might be obvious to you but isn't for others wil…

> This is why it's important to describe explicitly

That is a fair point. I will take it on board when giving people screenshots and videos of bugs in future.

> I did not see the change in button width

There's actually a lot more visual changes than that just the button, but I will leave that to the reader as an exercise in spot-the-difference ;)

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by supermatt »

ninkendo wrote: post #111
supermatt wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A problem like that should be extremely jarring Agreed - I don't see how its not glaringly obvious to anyone who uses the app: https://imgur.com/a/hZ1ja9o

Unrelated but imgur is basically malware at this point. I had to click through so many layers of nagging popups (including a “don’t support us” button, then a severely low-contrast “view in safari” button on a dialog explicitly designed to get me to accidentally click the app link), then when I finally got to your picture, any sort of interaction with the page whatsoever, including pinch-zooming to see the image, jus…

Can you suggest a low-effort alternative I can use in future?

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by morcus »

supermatt wrote: post #109
dallen33 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuinely asking - what's the issue? I don't see it.

I click to navigate to the "Examples" page (I am gesturing with my mouse to circle around a bit I want you to look at). Then i navigate to "Main components", and back to "Examples" and the content in that area has changed. For example, the button has changed to half the original width.

It's that very bottom button you're referring to, right?

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by leo_e »

I'm willing to pay the "performance tax" of the web stack/self-hosting if it means my design files aren't held hostage in a proprietary cloud silo.

Figma is fantastic software, but it has become a single point of failure for entire product orgs. If Penpot is "laggy" right now but gives me a docker-compose up guarantee that I own the pipeline, that's a trade-off I'll take.

Performance can be optimized eventually (it's code); closed-source licensing terms cannot be optimized by users (it's legal).

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by rtaylorgarlock »

leo_e wrote: post #117

I'm willing to pay the "performance tax" of the web stack/self-hosting if it means my design files aren't held hostage in a proprietary cloud silo. Figma is fantastic software, but it has become a single point of failure for entire product orgs. If Penpot is "laggy" right now but gives me a docker-compose up guarantee that I own the pipeline, that's a trade-off I'll take. Performance can be optimized eventually (it's…

Exactly. I'm a little interested to see if perhaps designer's eyes will continue to open to the power of licensing terms and control of their work with the whole AI conversation. The only designers i've heard say they care about open source are on the web side of design.

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by elsa26 »

leo_e wrote: post #117

I'm willing to pay the "performance tax" of the web stack/self-hosting if it means my design files aren't held hostage in a proprietary cloud silo. Figma is fantastic software, but it has become a single point of failure for entire product orgs. If Penpot is "laggy" right now but gives me a docker-compose up guarantee that I own the pipeline, that's a trade-off I'll take. Performance can be optimized eventually (it's…

Do you mean you would want to self-host apps like penpot if it was easy to do so?

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by supermatt »

morcus wrote: post #115
supermatt wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I click to navigate to the "Examples" page (I am gesturing with my mouse to circle around a bit I want you to look at). Then i navigate to "Main components", and back to "Examples" and the content in that area has changed. For example, the button has changed to half the original width.

It's that very bottom button you're referring to, right?

Thats the one I specifically mention, sure, but there are many more changes to the page overall if you compare the before and after.
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