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Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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100% agree. Will never understand the love for the global menu bar, it makes no sense.

I mean, it does take less space (compared to having one per window)

Only if you have two or more windows vertically stacked, which isn’t what you’re likely to be doing when you want to maximize vertical space.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

#112
post #39

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100% agree. Will never understand the love for the global menu bar, it makes no sense.

You don't have to like it, but the global menu bar is at the top of the screen which means you just fling the mouse to the top and then go left or right, instead of having to get to the right vertical.

True. This could be nicely solved by placing a non-global window all the way at the top of the window, so that you can still fling the cursor to the top of the screen if the window is maximized or otherwise along the top edge of the screen.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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I can't stand Gnome. I don't like how they dumped the desktop or the app menu, or really most of their decisions lately. From what I've seen they're trying to cater to some amorphous "new user" instead of just creating a good desktop environment. What is this "new user"? Nobody knows! Well, other than the Gnome developers, I guess. The sad thing is that attempting to cater to "new users" is just... Entirely unnecessa…

Do you really think a desktop needs to be stuck on the 30 year old start menu, task bar, desktop icons paradigm forever? It's fine if you want to stick to that, but the rest of us have found that using a mouse for everything isn't the most efficient way to work with our computer. I think in the case where you want GNOME to work more like windows 95 installing a few extensions is a completely reasonable ask. The fact…

But I don't use the mouse, I use the keyboard primarily. And yes, evolution is fine when it's actually needed. But trying to get rid of Minimize and all that because workspaces exist? Going in the trajectory Gnome is doing feels like Gnome is making the same mistake Microsoft made with windows 8.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

#114
post #93

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Well, I'll do a small experiment, working on my Surface Pro 3 (Yes, you read that right) which I am using as a Thin client to my desktop. Just opened 14 workspace on it. Opened up terminals, text editor, disk usage tool on all the workspace. gnome-shell is sitting on 154mb, and Firefox is 1.7GB. And I am not seeing any unacceptable performance degradation at all. Put them in same workspace, memory usage seemed to inc…

I'm paying attention, and I have respect for the experiment, but something is wrong somewhere. Conceptually I love workspaces, having tried innumerable forms of spatial window management, and I have tried them across multiple OS's and I always run into this problem eventually where the system lags switching between them (despite apparently low resource usage across the board). For some ungodly reason despite the effo…

Workspace being froze or causing issue, is just the symptom of the actual problem. It's not the workspace are the problem. So, maybe you should investigate the underlying issue.

Which version of Gnome are you using? Older version of Gnome had an issue with workspace switch, which has been fixed over a year ago.

You do realize, Surface Pro 3 is a 10 year old laptop, which only have 4GB of RAM, and iGPU, and I have opened up 14 workspace, with multiple applications. And, obviously it had some lag, but it never became unusable.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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What I am missing with Gnome is the global menu I have with macOS. It's just my preferred way of working. This is also what I liked about Unity. Gnome seems to follow the same direction as Windows. Additionally miller columns in Finder are just awesome and I don't have them with Nautilus. Those two things are honestly dealbreakers for me.

I like that Unity puts the global menu on the side. This makes more sense with all the wide-screens that we have nowadays. A huge oversight in MacOS, if you ask me.

Global menu meant menu bar. Unity put the dock on the side. You can move the macOS dock to either side.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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After all this years I still think the Applications - Places - System "start menu" was the best way to present available stuff in a DE, in any DE, in any OS, ever. You didn't have to skim through so many submenus to locate something - the main categories were available at a glance. It was pure genius.

I kind of get why they felt pressured to remove it but pretty much every other DE had a start-menu-like thing and they never did any change. It was just GNOME.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Which can simply be achieved by switching to another Workspace. The concept is not much different. Just slightly different presentation.

I know I'm being ridiculous, but I don't want all my windows over there. I want them here but invisible. I like keeping work contexts in the same workspace. For example: 1) Email, videoconferencing, internet browsing 2) Coding and simulation 3) Writing

Well, you can simply use `Meta + H` to hide the window too.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

#118
post #21

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What's the difference between "minimize" and "hide"? "Hide" is readily available in the context menu of a window (right-click on its toolbar). (Personally I rarely hide anything, I just have a messy stack of a zillion windows all the time... but I suppose that's not for everyone.)

Minimize affects a single window. I expect for "hide" to hide all windows associated with an application.

Well... it doesn't. It just hides the one window.

(Which personally is what I want. I hate it when multiple windows are grouped together just because they happen to be instances of the same application. For me that has nothing to do with whether or not they are related to the same task!)

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

#119
> When you maximize a window, it is moved to its own, dedicated virtual desktop - and I like it.

I know this author and I will never agree on what a good desktop behaves like.

I have no opinion on Gnome but I love my Plasma desktop. However the latest release made it significantly more buggy, which is frustrating.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

#120
post #84

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IMHO the Gnome team should bake in Dash to Dock and Desktop Icons NG into the core package. To me they are essential to get a proper functioning desktop in Gnome and it blows my mind that they are just 3rd party extensions when really it should be 1st party support. Ubuntu already does this with their build.

I don’t understand desktop icons. Why spend the time finding the thing, moving your hand to the mouse and clicking when you can just hit super, type the first 2 or 3 characters, done.

Because some times you are doing stuff that is more mouse centric and it is more comfortable to continue using the mouse.
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