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Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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> shown they don't respect the user when they force shutdown for system updates Are you familiar with the prior state of things that explicitly motivated this change?

Not really. Maybe I'm jinxing it, but I've never had a problem caused by failure to update my PC. Servers I understand because they're exposed to the Internet at all times. Not PCs

Lest one remembers Win 9x or even XP w/ no firewall on residential networks.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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windows 10 LTSC. the last remotely decent windows, i'm using it to the grave :-)

I would argue that Windows 2000 was the last decent version of Windows. Fast, non-bloated, ran DirectX and games better than Windows 98 ever did, and as stable an operating system as I'd ever run.

Someone forgets how long Windows 2000 took to boot ;-)

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Imagine a new version of Windows being released called "Windows Optimal" In addition to Home, Professional and Pro you get to buy Optimal. The catch is that it is priced 4x the home version. You wonder why? Optimal is exactly what you think it is. A ground up 0 bloatware, 0 telemetry, 100% easily tweakable privacy and performance settings from a single screen with 0 AI features, 0 Edge and 0 games. Imagine getting yo…

You're just describing a Linux distribution[1]. With the added benefit of being 0x the price. [1]: Assuming you're not married to some Windows only software that you can't get working using Proton/Wine, or don't want to run a Windows VM.

primary use case: gaming. needs to support everything from 90s to cutting edge modern games without hiccups

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would argue that Windows 2000 was the last decent version of Windows. Fast, non-bloated, ran DirectX and games better than Windows 98 ever did, and as stable an operating system as I'd ever run.

Someone forgets how long Windows 2000 took to boot ;-)

I recall it booting more slowly than 98 or ME, but I don't recall it being obnoxiously bad. I do remember disabling a lot of services I didn't think I needed, though.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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windows 10 LTSC. the last remotely decent windows, i'm using it to the grave :-)

I would argue that Windows 2000 was the last decent version of Windows. Fast, non-bloated, ran DirectX and games better than Windows 98 ever did, and as stable an operating system as I'd ever run.

win2k was my favorite. had a slipstream install with games i grinded and nothing else and it was the fastest desktop experience i've ever experienced to this day

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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>For example, if you ask ChatGPT’s Agent to book a travel, it’ll open Chromium on Linux in an Azure container, search the query, visit different websites, navigate each page and book a flight ticket using your saved credentials. An AI Agent tries to mimic a human, and it can perform tasks on your behalf while you sit back and relax. Big tech has repeatedly shown that they are not good stewards of end users' privacy a…

I think it's hilariously tone deaf that travel booking and shopping are the two examples of "agentic" AI that keep popping up.

I think there are two factors:

1. "Help customers buy crap" is one of the vaguely plausible use-cases which excite investors who see the ads, even if it isn't so exciting for actual customers.

2. The ideas seem sourced from some brain-trust of idle-rich, rather than from the average US consumer. Regardless of how the characters in the ads are presented, all of them are somehow able to prefer saving 60 seconds even if it means maybe losing $60 on a dumb purchase or a non-refundable reservation at the wrong restaurant, etc.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're just describing a Linux distribution[1]. With the added benefit of being 0x the price. [1]: Assuming you're not married to some Windows only software that you can't get working using Proton/Wine, or don't want to run a Windows VM.

primary use case: gaming. needs to support everything from 90s to cutting edge modern games without hiccups

Well, guess you're married to Windows if those are your requirements. Proton runs most games these days[1] (but not all). Apparently older Windows app/games run better on Proton/Wine than Windows (better citation needed) [2].

[1]: https://www.protondb.com/explore

[2]: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1kjib0y/is_th...

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's hilariously tone deaf that travel booking and shopping are the two examples of "agentic" AI that keep popping up.

I think there are two factors: 1. "Help customers buy crap" is one of the vaguely plausible use-cases which excite investors who see the ads, even if it isn't so exciting for actual customers. 2. The ideas seem sourced from some brain-trust of idle-rich, rather than from the average US consumer. Regardless of how the characters in the ads are presented, all of them are somehow able to prefer saving 60 seconds even if…

> The ideas seem sourced from some brain-trust of idle-rich , rather than from the average US consumer

I think it says more about the economy currently. The "average US consumer" is the wealthy right now. Just 10% of the population, the highest earners, drive nearly 50% of consumption currently and that number is growing.

That is the new average US consumer, hence the ads and use cases targeting a more well-off demographic. Everyone else has been left behind.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. Maybe I'm jinxing it, but I've never had a problem caused by failure to update my PC. Servers I understand because they're exposed to the Internet at all times. Not PCs

Lest one remembers Win 9x or even XP w/ no firewall on residential networks.

Behind a NAT.

Can't remember a single problem with the described setup and I've been using the internet since dial-up was the only option available.

Getting hacked when you don't have any open ports (thanks to NAT) is and was pretty unlikely - what was more likely is some kind of drive-by exploit in Flash or IE. The biggest problem I experienced with old Windows was general instability in the form of BSODs and driver compatibility problems.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Most apps on Windows can already access those folders though, except for UWP/AppContainer apps (which require particular capabilities to access them). I think the same is generally still true of the equivalents on most Linux distributions despite that things like SELinux exist.

That, and how many commenters in this thread are using something like Claude Code with their src directory as context? This is no different. It’s [claude code/gemini CLI/codex] but for non-devs and with a GUI instead of a TUI. I feel like everyone here is overly dismissive of this because it’s cool to hate Windows in these parts, but this could be genuinely useful for your average office drone. Much like we love to s…

wouldnt the more apt comparison being that anthropic uses a zero day to run claude code as root on / with "dangerously ignore permissions" turned on?

claude code is quite useful, but its a tool that accepts the context i give it, and it asks for permissions before it does things

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