Can we use this for voter ID?
Americans do not need to provide ID to vote, so no?
In some states you do need ID to vote. Texas, for example.
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is usually not something you choose.
Only if you're being arrested. If you're at a traffic stop or tons of other scenarios would never need to.
It's normal for police at a traffic stop to take your license back to their car while they write a ticket or whatever. Until laws change, having your only license on your phone means handing your phone to an officer until they are satisfied they no longer need it.
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#113I am never handing my phone to a cop.
I get what you're saying, but if you think of it what we're doing today - handing over the one and only official piece of document to a) cop b) club bouncer etc. They can hold onto it, and never return it. They can deface it. All of that is a possibilty. You could argue, a sufficiently locked down phone is a better alternative. If they do something, you'll only lose $$
Exactly this. If your only license is on your phone, and the police officer decides to confiscate your license, now you have a lot more problems beyond not being able to legally drive.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Now that we’ve got ice walking around with an app that uses facial recognition to determine if you’re a citizen, fuck the facial recognition stuff. This tech should be out of government hands.
> Now that we’ve got ice walking around with an app that uses facial recognition to determine if you’re a citizen, fuck the facial recognition stuff. This tech should be out of government hands. When I was in LAX last week, facial recognition on entry was only for US citizens anyway, and for it to work they need to take a photo of you when you're leaving. I don't see how it helps ICE in any way, plus it's handled by…
> I don't see how it helps ICE in any way, plus it's handled by CBP
ICE and CBP are both part of DHS. This data is going to be abused, if it is not already.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Only if you're being arrested. If you're at a traffic stop or tons of other scenarios would never need to.
It's normal for police at a traffic stop to take your license back to their car while they write a ticket or whatever. Until laws change, having your only license on your phone means handing your phone to an officer until they are satisfied they no longer need it.
Yeah that’s why OP said he wouldn’t hand his phone over. Implying he prefers a physical one.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Now that we’ve got ice walking around with an app that uses facial recognition to determine if you’re a citizen, fuck the facial recognition stuff. This tech should be out of government hands.
> Now that we’ve got ice walking around with an app that uses facial recognition to determine if you’re a citizen, fuck the facial recognition stuff. This tech should be out of government hands. When I was in LAX last week, facial recognition on entry was only for US citizens anyway, and for it to work they need to take a photo of you when you're leaving. I don't see how it helps ICE in any way, plus it's handled by…
> When I was in LAX last week, facial recognition on entry was only for US citizens anyway, and for it to work they need to take a photo of you when you're leaving.
I've definitely avoided photos on exit and used it coming back in, so I'm not sure this is accurate.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Geniuine question, why can't you just have your license in your car at all times?
In the US if you need a state ID card and a driver's license those are generally combined into a single card. They usually only need its driver's license functionality when they are driving but often need its ID card functionality when they are away from the car and so it generally goes with them.
Ah, that's why, ok. Didn't know they are combined.
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#118No thanks. It's 2025, identity needs to be resilient, so having a national public blockchain that every public administration entity, every private who wants to participate, compensated for the IT resources they provide, whether a citizen or a business maintains well, that makes sense. The fingerprint of a key is shared, this key is on a smart-card, therefore offline, on well-known (bank cards, SIM cards) proven and…
If you're not an LLM bot, why does almost every post have one thing in ALL-CAPS?
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does this apply to a digital version of an official government ID? The government already has all this data.
Most people are missing the fact that your passport in the drawer doesn't know where you are. Once everyone is mandated to carry digital ID, then possibilities to track population open up.
Isn't this just seeing a slippery slope and deciding to build a terrace[1], in that the existence of a digital ID doesn't automatically lead to mandate to carry one—any more than the existence of a physical ID card does?
[1] to paraphrase one many excellent John McCarthy-isms: http://jmc.stanford.edu/general/sayings.html
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the United States, getting an ID is expensive and time-consuming and is often inaccessible to many people, particularly those who don’t speak English, are poor, or work service jobs. These people are the same people who are historically marginalized and oppressed. This is why voter ID laws in the United States are fundamentally anti-democratic and disenfranchising. If IDs were free and incredibly easy to get, I wo…
How do they buy alcohol?
Without an ID?
I look young for my age (well over 21) and I almost never get carded for alcohol purchases. Even on my 21st birthday when I went to make my first legal purchase I wasn't carded.