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Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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The difference here is presumably for the last hundred years, ending last November, there was simply no chance of a invasion of Canada. Nukes might fly overhead and end the world as they struck targets on either side, but other than that we were safe and any significant military action we took part in would be overseas and thus not justify calling up a huge number of reservists. Meanwhile Norway was occupied in WWII,…

Except that there are several invasion risks, especially in the north. Canada maintains bases there (Alert) to protect its north from being taken by the likes of Russia, the USA and even Denmark (they have a longrunning dispute regarding an island near greenland). Canada also does not want the northwest passage to become an international waterway and so must maintain control over vessels in the north. https://en.wiki…

> Denmark (they have a longrunning dispute regarding an island near greenland)

That was resolved in 2022 by dividing Hans Island. Canada now has a land border with Denmark.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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> Federal and provincial employees would be given a one-week training course in how to handle firearms, drive trucks and fly drones What is the use of these "professionals"? I know russians send these substandard soldiers to meat grinder ("infiltration in small groups" tactics). If they're killed with ukrainian FPV drone, it's fine, at least AFU spent a drone. Is it what Canadians are planning to do?

It is simply raising the costs for any potential invasion.

When a wannabe imperialist thinks, he can get something easy, he will take it. If he thinks, there will be unknown risks and costs .. he might not.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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> Any attempt to do so would trigger a civil war within the US What makes you say that? I could see heavy protests, even violent protests, as it's not something Americans want. I'm not sure I could envision any semblance of an actual civil war, though, but perhaps I'm underestimating things.

> What makes you say that? Because the group of men fit to fight such a war would rather rebel against the government than fight a brother war. From lowest recruit to highest general.

how are they handling being deployed to US cities right now? I think they could be swayed into it with the right rhetoric.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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24 000 reserves out of a population of 40 million seems like a rather small number. Norway has 40 000 in the Home Guard (Heimevernet) rapid reaction force of volunteer part time soldiers and a further 20 000 reserves. All from a population of about 5.5 million.

I mean Canada just depends on the USA for nearly all it's defense. The USA isn't going to let anyone invade Canada or Mexico.

I don't know if you've been paying attention, but the head of the USA has threatened on numerous occasions to invade Canada.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Any rational assessment of Canada's military capabilities, its funding capabilities, and population will lead to a determination that they're not in any sort of position to have any sort of meaningful defense or offense without the US running point. For that to change would require generational shifts in culture and revenue generation and so on. If the US chooses not to defend them, they're exposing themselves to una…

The bureaucrats are being militarized out of desperation. The political faction all bureaucrats in the nation belong to can't find enough soldiers. This is because they treat those soldiers with contempt- no young man wants to die for Ottawa. Plus, the volunteer soldiers that come back from Ukraine are not going to be on Ottawa's side if domestic instability ramped up, but will be familiar with the tools of modern wa…

So it looks like they think they can keep the peasants in line by going full police state with drones and ultra surveillance? Good lord.

I respect regular Canadians quite a lot, but damn, Canadian government officials seem like a social experiment in how far you can push people before they blow up in your face.

Degens from up north indeed.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Vs. Finland has reserves of 870 000 from a population of about 5.6 million. Via the magic of universal male conscription: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Defence_Forces#Conscri...

Not teaching your son a second language so he can escape the country with draft as soon as he's 18 is evil. You are obligated to give your child tools to choose his future if your government is trying to deny him that choice.

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Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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post #59

24 000 reserves out of a population of 40 million seems like a rather small number. Norway has 40 000 in the Home Guard (Heimevernet) rapid reaction force of volunteer part time soldiers and a further 20 000 reserves. All from a population of about 5.5 million.

The difference here is presumably for the last hundred years, ending last November, there was simply no chance of a invasion of Canada. Nukes might fly overhead and end the world as they struck targets on either side, but other than that we were safe and any significant military action we took part in would be overseas and thus not justify calling up a huge number of reservists. Meanwhile Norway was occupied in WWII,…

> Nukes might fly overhead

Numerous Canadian sites, military and NORAD, were and surely are on first strike lists from the USSR and later Russia.

The largest established combined bi-national military command in the world involves a fair amount of shared risk.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vs. Finland has reserves of 870 000 from a population of about 5.6 million. Via the magic of universal male conscription: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Defence_Forces#Conscri...

Not teaching your son a second language so he can escape the country with draft as soon as he's 18 is evil. You are obligated to give your child tools to choose his future if your government is trying to deny him that choice.

Did you respond to the wrong comment or is this flying way over my head? I'm not actually sure how you arrived at talking about children needing to learn another language from this article that doesn't discuss language?

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vs. Finland has reserves of 870 000 from a population of about 5.6 million. Via the magic of universal male conscription: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Defence_Forces#Conscri...

Not teaching your son a second language so he can escape the country with draft as soon as he's 18 is evil. You are obligated to give your child tools to choose his future if your government is trying to deny him that choice.

No you have a duty and obligation to the society that raised you.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference here is presumably for the last hundred years, ending last November, there was simply no chance of a invasion of Canada. Nukes might fly overhead and end the world as they struck targets on either side, but other than that we were safe and any significant military action we took part in would be overseas and thus not justify calling up a huge number of reservists. Meanwhile Norway was occupied in WWII,…

> Nukes might fly overhead Numerous Canadian sites, military and NORAD, were and surely are on first strike lists from the USSR and later Russia. The largest established combined bi-national military command in the world involves a fair amount of shared risk.

Agreed. Also, even if Canada were to shut down all NORAD radars and command posts on Canadian territory and to kick out every US soldier and to tear up all agreements with the US, Canadian cities and important Canadian infrastructure within 100 miles of the US border (i.e., most Canadian population and infrastructure) would probably get nuked in a nuclear war just so that the US cannot rely on those resources during the US's recovery from the attack.

A large nuclear exchange between great powers (and currently there are 3 great powers, the US, China and Russia) would be followed by the use of conventional military forces. E.g., The US would try to capture and hold major ports of the power or powers that attacked it because holding ports is a very effective way of denying the power the ability to deploy its own conventional forces outside its own territory and the ability to rebuild its nuclear stockpile. Military planners in the power or powers that planned the nuclear strike on the US would know that and consequently would realize that it is essential to slow down the US's recovery from the strike as long as possible.

In summary, if the US ever endures a large nuclear strike, it is very likely that Canada gets nuked, too. Canada's kicking out the US military and declaring the US to be its enemy might cause a minor reduction in intensity of the nuclear attack on Canada, but is very unlikely prevent it altogether.

Yes, Switzerland was able to avoid any attacks from the UK, the US or the USSR during WWII despite sharing a border with Germany, but that was probably near thing. Also, Switzerland was very hard for Germany to invade because of how mountainous it is; in contrast, most of the cities and infra in Southern Canada is separated from the US by nothing but plains. Also, Switzerland invests very heavily in its military capacity, e.g., every Swiss male must do military service, e.g., every bridge in Switzerland is engineered to be easy for Swiss forces to blow up.

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