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SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sony Xperia 10 series devices are still supported - including Xperia 10 V which is quite recent.

It says there is no license for 10 V yet. Have not looked into the details for a long time, but I guess the reason for that is that it's considered beta with too many bugs / features not working?

There is a beta OS release which I think can be used for free. As far as I know there are still hardware issues with it.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Ah, SailfishOS; the zombie of mobile device OS. Even longtime supporters (endusers) turned away b/c of little supported HW. And even if, then not all features. It's Maemo and webOS all over again.

> The main thing to me is that SailfishOS is a Linux on your pocket. You can ssh into it, sync stuff with rsync or syncthing, edit your stuff with vim, have cron do stuff, or what ever you like. My old phones I use as remote sensors now.

I don't use the cron part, but you can deffo do all things w/o hassle on a regular Android thingy. These arguments for "Linux in your pockets" have long, umm, sailed?

> There was a point that I tried to switch to iPhone. I struggled for a long time to get on par with the usability that I had with SFOS. I came pretty close, but the card house of different apps I had to build was pretty unreliable.

IMHO iOS is for mongos / simpletons that just use apps casually. Just look at their keyboard implementation, the cursor positioning and where characters / digits are accessed drives me crazy! Don't know if Apple permits 3rd party keyboards to be installed, i have to live with this shitbox as-is as it's a company device.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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SailfishOS and the Jolla One were good (awesome usability) But the integration of Android was a horribly failure. It is like WINE, half working applications preventing native ports of quality. I left the boat. After that Jolla failed with the tablet. Then they didn’t deliver a successor device for Jolla One and provided SailfishOS only as aftermarket OS. You remember the Android problem from above? The hardware of ot…

Does anyone know if Jolla ever published the full source-code? The promised back in 2013.

There are plans now in 2025 to work on this slowly. A few apps have recently been opened up. More are coming. So it is underway.

In 2015 Jolla were bought by Russian owners. They didn't understand open source or free software, they just wanted something for the Russian market.

In 2021 these ties were broken, but it took a long time since the Russian owners didn't respond in any way. It is only two years or there about that they are on their own feet again. They are still severely understaffed.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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I tried this briefly on a pine phone ~2 years ago as I was going through the different options trying to see if there was something viable. It was useless then, the phone barely worked, and I’m pretty low maintenance, I basically just wanted mobile date, wifi, email, and browser. I don’t really remember sailfish specifically as I was quickly cycling thought the options but I know I tried it and found it unsuitable. P…

Ubuntu Touch does all of this. https://www.ubuntu-touch.io/

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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This is a mobile OS, right? I go to the homepage. Zero screenshots. I go to the User Experience page. Zero screenshots. I even go to Design Principles under the UX page. Zero screenshots. Talking about mobile phone design is like dancing about architecture. Show the thing or bust.

Videos and pictures here https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-community-phone

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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I would seriously consider SailfishOS if it shipped on decent (recent) hardware that was available in the US. The last good experience I had with it was on the Xperia XA2, but that hardware was turned into ewaste by the VoLTE requirements of US carriers. Although they claim to run on more recent Xperia phones, they don't have full hardware support, and aren't on the most recent models. If I'm going to pay for a phone…

I think you can install it on Xperia X 10 III, and IV (which I have) is in a long-toothed beta.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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I thought this was vaporware?

Jolla has been selling on real hardware since the Nokia N900 of which it's a direct descendant. That platform has been shipping for 20 years. It's been around longer than iOS or Android. What on Earth do you mean "vapourware"?

I have 2 handsets here currently. It is completely real.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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This is a mobile OS, right? I go to the homepage. Zero screenshots. I go to the User Experience page. Zero screenshots. I even go to Design Principles under the UX page. Zero screenshots. Talking about mobile phone design is like dancing about architecture. Show the thing or bust.

I type these words on my year old Sailfish device. I had 2 other ones for roughly 10 years altogether. The UI is astonishingly polished. It has not changed a lot for 10 years, but still nice to use. There is e.g. the tutorial video that comes installed on every device. Sorry, probably won't have time to share it later, I have a funeral to organize when I get out of bed. Maybe some other user can if it's not on Youtub…

  > The browser is based on Firefox with a 2 digit version number.
The OS runs (probably some subset of) Android applications, no? Is Mozilla's build of Firefox not supported?

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It says there is no license for 10 V yet. Have not looked into the details for a long time, but I guess the reason for that is that it's considered beta with too many bugs / features not working?

There is a beta OS release which I think can be used for free. As far as I know there are still hardware issues with it.

The hardware issues are camera related. As in the camera is not operational. They are working on it. Sigh.
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