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Re: uBlock Origin Lite in Apple App Store

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Post by hopelite »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #77
pprotas wrote: post #61

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Did some research on this DNS since it seemed promising. Apparently they rely on non-EU services? https://cybernews.com/security/european-independent-dns-reli...

Interesting article, i will have to dig around some more. I want to say though, that the initiative is sponsored by the EU and has privacy preservation as one of it's main objectives, so until proven, i will assume that this is all circumstantial. For me at least, it solves exactly the use case i was previously using NextDNS for, which was basically DNS level ad blocking, and while i still have a NextDNS subscription…

EU? Sponsoring privacy preservation? I’m skeptical, to say the least.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite in Apple App Store

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

johnisgood wrote: post #78
teekert wrote: post #35

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I think this is sarcastic? I mean I pay on several websites to not see ads, so it (paying to remove ads) seems like the normalest thing. And it should be the normalest thing. The only weird thing here is that we pay a party that is not the one serving the ads, so the primary misses income from ads and potentially paying customers. But I suspect that is what you meant with your remark. Moreover, paying on every websit…

No. Not having ads is the "normalest" thing. I would never pay. I would use an ad blocker, and if that does not work, I would not use the website at all. This is the "normalest" thing to do, not giving them money for using ads. You are enabling them and paying them for using ads. How is that the "normalest" or even normal thing to do? How do you expect them to stop showing ads if not only the ads themselves work, but…

I got this far down in the comments before I realized that this subject was such a big deal to everyone because, for them, their phones are what they use to interact with websites. It's bizarre. Last year I needed to watch a video to do a simple furnace repair, and I could not watch it on my phone... I'd have to keep going back to my desk to watch it there, and then return to do the fix.

Even the laptop's difficult to do much on unless I have it plugged into the dock and the two monitors.

I'm not sure when everyone and myself diverged, but it feels pretty strange.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite in Apple App Store

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Post by pmontra »

mort96 wrote: post #100
ptk wrote: post #99

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This behavior (as far as I can tell) has broken the Expensify iOS app for us at work. We have a conditional access policy that requires a “compliant” device to succeed the SSO login. However, only the iOS Edge browser can prove compliance and Expensify refuses to hand over that login process to the Edge browser preferring to use its own built-in browser. So login fail and as far as I can tell there is nothing we can…

I wonder what iOS Edge does which iOS Safari doesn't do, considering both are just UIs over WebKit... Not that it matters, it's still an excellent example of stuff not working because links don't work as links anymore.

Maybe what breaks that process is what Edge does not do and Safari does. There is more to a browser than the rendering engine. Furthermore, does Safari still uses an optimized JS engine that the other browsers cannot use?

Re: uBlock Origin Lite in Apple App Store

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Post by johnisgood »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #112
johnisgood wrote: post #78

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No. Not having ads is the "normalest" thing. I would never pay. I would use an ad blocker, and if that does not work, I would not use the website at all. This is the "normalest" thing to do, not giving them money for using ads. You are enabling them and paying them for using ads. How is that the "normalest" or even normal thing to do? How do you expect them to stop showing ads if not only the ads themselves work, but…

I got this far down in the comments before I realized that this subject was such a big deal to everyone because, for them, their phones are what they use to interact with websites. It's bizarre. Last year I needed to watch a video to do a simple furnace repair, and I could not watch it on my phone... I'd have to keep going back to my desk to watch it there, and then return to do the fix. Even the laptop's difficult t…

I do not watch videos on my phone either. I have never visited YouTube on my phone, for example. In fact, I rarely use my phone.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite in Apple App Store

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Post by braebo »

djxfade wrote: post #57
tech234a wrote: post #2

I’ve been using uBlock Origin Lite on iOS for several months now, but one shortcoming I see with the newer WebExtensions implementation in Safari is that WebExtensions can’t be used with the in-app Safari views, meaning extensions such as this one don’t work with in-app Safari views. There was an older Safari content blocker API that did work with the in-app Safari views, but it seems like apps are being updated to s…

As a side note, I personally HATE apps that opens links in an in-app web view (apps like Instagram, Facebook, etc). I really wish Apple could have a system wide preference where it could force in-app web views to open in the browser.

I wouldn’t mind if it didn’t break OAuth flows on _some_ webviews on _some_ operating systems. Miserable rabbit holes mitigating all the edge cases.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite in Apple App Store

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Post by lapcat »

oktoberpaard wrote: post #74
tech234a wrote: post #2

I’ve been using uBlock Origin Lite on iOS for several months now, but one shortcoming I see with the newer WebExtensions implementation in Safari is that WebExtensions can’t be used with the in-app Safari views, meaning extensions such as this one don’t work with in-app Safari views. There was an older Safari content blocker API that did work with the in-app Safari views, but it seems like apps are being updated to s…

Without having any experience with the APIs to back up my claim, I believe that the WebExtensions API is more powerful in the sense that it allows more complex blocking rules. AdGuard seems to include both options simultaneously, where you have "advanced protection" (WebExtensions API) that only works in Safari and separate blocking lists (old API) that work in both Safari and WebView. This is precisely what keeps me…

> I believe that the WebExtensions API is more powerful in the sense that it allows more complex blocking rules.

This is not really accurate.

The Safari content blocking API and the WebExtensions DeclarativeNetRequest API are comparable. The difference is that WebExtensions are JavaScript and can run in the context of the web page. With WebExtensions, you get DNR plus arbitrary JS, whereas the Safari content blocker API is native code and doesn't run in the context of the web page. The arbitrary runtime JS is what allows you to do things that you can't do with declarative content blocking rules.

You could also have a Safari content blocker with an optional WebExtension for additional functionality with no usage of DeclarativeNetRequest.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite in Apple App Store

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Post by carlosjobim »

johnisgood wrote: post #78
teekert wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is sarcastic? I mean I pay on several websites to not see ads, so it (paying to remove ads) seems like the normalest thing. And it should be the normalest thing. The only weird thing here is that we pay a party that is not the one serving the ads, so the primary misses income from ads and potentially paying customers. But I suspect that is what you meant with your remark. Moreover, paying on every websit…

No. Not having ads is the "normalest" thing. I would never pay. I would use an ad blocker, and if that does not work, I would not use the website at all. This is the "normalest" thing to do, not giving them money for using ads. You are enabling them and paying them for using ads. How is that the "normalest" or even normal thing to do? How do you expect them to stop showing ads if not only the ads themselves work, but…

It's been normal for thousands of years to pay for services which you use.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite in Apple App Store

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Post by carlosjobim »

ornornor wrote: post #17

In all these years I haven’t found a better solution than DNS blocking with NextDNS on iOS. The only place I get ads is YT (but for that I have an Albanian VPN)

Why not pay for YouTube premium instead of paying for an Albanian VPN? Then your money goes to the video makers you watch.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite in Apple App Store

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Post by OGWhales »

Mistletoe wrote: post #63
djxfade wrote: post #57

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As a side note, I personally HATE apps that opens links in an in-app web view (apps like Instagram, Facebook, etc). I really wish Apple could have a system wide preference where it could force in-app web views to open in the browser.

Gmail insists on doing this and always screws it up.

On iOS I have the chrome and gmail app installed and it always opens my links in chrome. Does it use the built-in browser if you don't have chrome?
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