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Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by sedatk »

c-hendricks wrote: post #49
carlgreene wrote: post #3

This is not for me as I'm not a professional network engineer, but I do want to say that Ubiquiti has made home networking SO fun for me. Everything truly "Just Works." My setup is definitely more on the prosumer side, but it's been so build out and inspect my network with their tools.

Can someone explain what "just works" when compared to other networking gear? IE I use ASUS and their mesh, and it all "just works". Have a mix of routers over 10 years and they all mesh together.

Adding a new Unifi device to the network is just a matter of powering it up, responding to "adopt this new device?" prompt on your phone, and that's it. It's literally Plug'n'Play in 2025. Even if other brands let you do that with similar number of steps, the UX is so behind that it's impossible for you to discover the steps that easily. Ubiquiti uses UX quite intelligently to make complicated things feel simple. My experience hasn't been close to Ubiquiti's with any other brand I've tried.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by booi »

bongodongobob wrote: post #85
headwayoldest wrote: post #7

For those outside the IT/networking realms, SFP use uniform connectors for both the networking device and the fiber cable, but the major vendors (Cisco and friends) have used firmware flags and settings to provide vendor lock-in for at least the last 15 years. It used to be that in the event of a major outage or hardware failure you would need to issue additional debug commands to the effect of "I know this isn't you…

I have installed 100s of SFP connections and I've never had an issue with compatibility. I've never even heard of this. Is it just for some ultra high end products or something?

I'm surprised you've never run into this. Even the "cheap" cisco/juniper switches will warn you when you plug in a generic or different branded one.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by LtdJorge »

jabart wrote: post #30
donatj wrote: post #28

Early this year I started redoing the backbone of my home network with 10 gb. Some of it's fiber, some of it's 10 gb copper Ethernet. It's been genuinely frustrating the weird incompatibilities between switches and SFP+ modules. All my switches are MikroTik. My SFP+ modules are MikroTik, Ubiquiti, and some 3rd party ones from before I knew better. I've had modules that will only run at gigabit in one switch but will…

I've had great luck with 10gtek modules both with Mikrotik gear, with DACs, and one that is connected to an upstream juniper switch. I'm curious what modules were the most troublesom. * I will note that the 10gb sfp+ modules from 10gtek on a Mikrotik just don't work.

I have a few SFP+ doing 10GbE over UTP from 10Gtek in a Mikrotik. They work perfectly, although hot (to be expected).

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by LtdJorge »

tguvot wrote: post #102
donatj wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I actually had to do that to get the Ubiqiti one to work. It just did not work when I tried that with the Mikrotik adapter.

btw, if you are using 10gbe copper modules, take a look at their temperature. some of mine were getting to 92C i think. had to put a bunch of heatsinks on them

I put a couple of Noctua NF-14 over the top ventilation holes in my rack, with the silicone mounting thingies and the NA-FC1 PWM controller. They are almost silent in winter. The switch with 10Gb copper is under the fans.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by sz4kerto »

fullstop wrote: post #91
radlad wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish I could say that Unifi has just worked for me, but any time I add a new Unifi device to the network (say a new switch, or just recently a U6 range extender), my network gets incredibly unstable until I manually restart every UniFi device on the network, sometimes multiple times. (i.e. Some devices won't connect to WiFi due to DHCP IP configuration errors.) And that's after getting the device adopted, which gen…

I just wanted to chime in and say that this hasn't been my experience. It sounds like you have some other sort of problem if it takes multiple attempts to adopt.

The 7 series has many problems. They'll eventually work it out, but it seems to be a bit more problematic than usual.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by wmf »

Sesse__ wrote: post #72
phoronixrly wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better UI is stretching it a bit... Maybe for the amateur/enthusiast (homelab) market... I certainly don't need or want their rack augmented reality... 'feature'? fad? And their clunky web UI is both limiting and slowing me down. Thanks, I'm perfectly fine with a console and simple LEDs.

> I certainly don't need or want their rack augmented reality... 'feature'? fad? I find it mind-boggling that you can hardly buy _RAM_ anymore without programmable RGB LEDs, but that managed switches do not come with a per-port RGB LED to let me mark VLANs or cables that need replacements or whatever. Come on! A nice little square all around the port, please. Instead, we get the QR code plus an app that needs to talk…

Some of their switches have Etherlighting™.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by lflux »

headwayoldest wrote: post #7

For those outside the IT/networking realms, SFP use uniform connectors for both the networking device and the fiber cable, but the major vendors (Cisco and friends) have used firmware flags and settings to provide vendor lock-in for at least the last 15 years. It used to be that in the event of a major outage or hardware failure you would need to issue additional debug commands to the effect of "I know this isn't you…

Longer than that - in 2005 I was at a network hardware startup and we had vendor-locked (ahem, _qualified_) SFPs back then. Probably started back in 2001 when they were introduced.

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by booi »

donatj wrote: post #35
jabart wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had great luck with 10gtek modules both with Mikrotik gear, with DACs, and one that is connected to an upstream juniper switch. I'm curious what modules were the most troublesom. * I will note that the 10gb sfp+ modules from 10gtek on a Mikrotik just don't work.

Funnily enough, this 10gtek worked on one of my 3 switches, but I could only establish a gigabit connection. I returned it [1] These 10gtek fiber modules on the other hand have worked flawlessly so far. [2] This Mikrotik module would not establish a 10 gb link with my Thunderbolt dock no matter what I tried. Works fine with my servers though so I swapped it out. I've pretty much resigned myself to just buying the ful…

I tried converting everything to copper as well but the copper DACs use a lot of power and ended up not working out due to the greatly increased power usage (mostly because the networking "closet" wasn't really designed for it). So beware if you're moving it to copper

Re: Ubiquiti SFP Wizard

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Post by fullstop »

sz4kerto wrote: post #116
fullstop wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wanted to chime in and say that this hasn't been my experience. It sounds like you have some other sort of problem if it takes multiple attempts to adopt.

The 7 series has many problems. They'll eventually work it out, but it seems to be a bit more problematic than usual.

I do not have any of the 7 series yet, and perhaps that is the difference.
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