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Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Post by gcommer »

neilv wrote: post #80

Provenance and trust are relevant for a remote KVM. But I can't find any information on their Web site about who runs the JetKVM company, not even a partial name or handle of anyone, nor even what country they are in. Which seems odd for how much this product needs to be trusted. Searching elsewhere, other than the company Web site... Crunchbase for JetKVM shows 2 people, who it says are based in Berlin, and who also…

This is why I recently went with a PiKVM. Pricier and clunkier but much more open and transparent.

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

trenchpilgrim wrote: post #90
neilv wrote: post #80

Provenance and trust are relevant for a remote KVM. But I can't find any information on their Web site about who runs the JetKVM company, not even a partial name or handle of anyone, nor even what country they are in. Which seems odd for how much this product needs to be trusted. Searching elsewhere, other than the company Web site... Crunchbase for JetKVM shows 2 people, who it says are based in Berlin, and who also…

I think products like JetKVM are targeting hobbyists and small outfits; corporations who aren't on a public cloud are using stuff like idrac, ilo, or dedicated rackmount KVM hardware.

Implying idrac, ilo and similar are somehow reputable?

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Post by toast0 »

mbreese wrote: post #98
nerdsniper wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes - but a bolt-on solution for nearly any motherboard with an extra PCIe or NVMe slot.

I’ve seen raspberry pi based kvms that do just this - draw power from PCI to operate. Except they still usually require a cable to HDMI/USB ports on the computer. I suspect you’d like to have the whole thing to be on card without cables. Example: https://geekworm.com/collections/pikvm (but I think this still requires separate power) To do this, wouldn’t you effectively need to make a graphics card (VGA would work) wh…

> To do this, wouldn’t you effectively need to make a graphics card (VGA would work) where a separate chip could read the screen buffer? And somehow get this card to display preferentially over the on-board video card?

If you do basic VGA (and UEFI), that'd be plenty for most. If it had a local output it'd be great for systems without video on the cpu (am4 non-apus, but also others)

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Post by gcommer »

trenchpilgrim wrote: post #106
Joel_Mckay wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does share similarity to a rebranded Sipeed NanoKVM model already sold in China. Would have to dump the flash with proper tooling, and load up a clean OS on a blank chip to even begin checking for issues. Mostly, these gadgets are purposely built like garbage for a number of reasons. If I needed a DIY KVM install for a home-theater, I'd just setup a https://pikvm.org/ install. =) https://github.com/pikvm/pikvm/

For those prices I could buy an old PC to do out of band management and have over half the money left over. The appeal of JetKVM/NanoKVM is they're price competitive with an extra PC for a tiny fraction of the physical and power footprint.

For feature parity, the old PC will require USB OTG, HDMI input, wiring for ATX control, and a software stack.

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Post by technothrasher »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #104
technothrasher wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being a nerdy kid in the 80’s, I can’t see the acronym MCP without thinking, “You’re in trouble program. Why don’t you make it easy on yourself. Who’s your user?”

And your mom who grew up in the 1960s might have yet another interpretation in mind ( https://www.ebay.com/itm/305272862225 ). MCP is definitely an overloaded acronym at this point.

Well, my mom was in her mid-twenties by the time that phrase came into usage, but point still well taken.

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

trenchpilgrim wrote: post #106
Joel_Mckay wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does share similarity to a rebranded Sipeed NanoKVM model already sold in China. Would have to dump the flash with proper tooling, and load up a clean OS on a blank chip to even begin checking for issues. Mostly, these gadgets are purposely built like garbage for a number of reasons. If I needed a DIY KVM install for a home-theater, I'd just setup a https://pikvm.org/ install. =) https://github.com/pikvm/pikvm/

For those prices I could buy an old PC to do out of band management and have over half the money left over. The appeal of JetKVM/NanoKVM is they're price competitive with an extra PC for a tiny fraction of the physical and power footprint.

A pi4 is $35 + parts, and can do a PXE server as well... but it is the OS/kernel upkeep that always hits proprietary devices.

Small recycled PCs can certainly work too, and reminds me of the https://guacamole.apache.org/ project. =3

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Post by IvyMike »

Greed wrote: post #75

I might be missing something, but what does this do that an app like AnyDesk doesn't? Is there something inherently better about remoting in with dedicated hardware rather than using any of the free and widely available software solutions? I can see where this would make sense for low powered machines that can't easily encode video at high speeds / low latency, but I struggle to see the sense of this in a context whe…

> what does this do that an app like AnyDesk doesn't

Work when the network config on that particular computer is down/borked.

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Post by Aurornis »

nati0n wrote: post #3

PiKVM seems to be the large competitor here and is completely open source. If you're looking into KVM solutions, probably check it out, but JetKVM is over 50% less, which is a huge argument in favor of it. https://pikvm.org

The JetKVM software is also open source: https://github.com/jetkvm/kvm

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

gcommer wrote: post #114
trenchpilgrim wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those prices I could buy an old PC to do out of band management and have over half the money left over. The appeal of JetKVM/NanoKVM is they're price competitive with an extra PC for a tiny fraction of the physical and power footprint.

For feature parity, the old PC will require USB OTG, HDMI input, wiring for ATX control, and a software stack.

Sipeed makes a PCIe KVM card for around $80 that drops into standard PC cases.

I'd assume it runs off the 5v standby power when the primary ATX supply is sleeping. =3

https://github.com/sipeed/NanoKVM?tab=readme-ov-file

Re: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

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Post by nickphx »

RajT88 wrote: post #89

This is cool. JetKVM seems really popular on my homelab groups, but I use something similar called Aurga for my personal stuff. I don't see anyone in this thread using Aurga. It's not as good as RDP or physically being in front of the machine, but it's good enough.

I have an aurga. I've found their client software to be lacking.
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