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Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Post by charlysl »

j4coh wrote: post #99
somenameforme wrote: post #95

There's huge pink elephant that I think many aren't aware of here. A former chess world champion, Vladimir Kramnik, has turned into a sort of self satire seeking out cheaters in online chess. Basically everybody is cheating according to him, he even implied Hikaru Nakamura, the 2nd strongest player in the world, could be cheating. Eventually his sights fell on Danya. At first I thought they were both kind of playing…

We don’t even know yet how he died, isn’t it a bit early to pin it on someone?

Sure, but all the same, given what you've said, isn't it a bit weird that Kramnik himself has rushed to raise drug taking suspicions? Is he trying to divert attention? Regardless of whether he has anything to do with this, it would have been classy of him to stay quiet for a while about this

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Post by DuperPower »

somenameforme wrote: post #95

There's huge pink elephant that I think many aren't aware of here. A former chess world champion, Vladimir Kramnik, has turned into a sort of self satire seeking out cheaters in online chess. Basically everybody is cheating according to him, he even implied Hikaru Nakamura, the 2nd strongest player in the world, could be cheating. Eventually his sights fell on Danya. At first I thought they were both kind of playing…

so another victim of the algorithm? social media promotes this type of bullying behavior as advertisers are Happy to put their ads in harasing videos as long they dont say certain words. Ridiculous. Its sad that platforms themselves are above the law, of course in the TOS they promise democracy but its a lie and they give us Roman colloseum as its what sells the most

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Post by CaptainOfCoit »

j4coh wrote: post #99
somenameforme wrote: post #95

There's huge pink elephant that I think many aren't aware of here. A former chess world champion, Vladimir Kramnik, has turned into a sort of self satire seeking out cheaters in online chess. Basically everybody is cheating according to him, he even implied Hikaru Nakamura, the 2nd strongest player in the world, could be cheating. Eventually his sights fell on Danya. At first I thought they were both kind of playing…

We don’t even know yet how he died, isn’t it a bit early to pin it on someone?

It read that as useful context overall, not that parent was trying to pin it on/blame someone. Without

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Post by gizajob »

toinewx wrote: post #89
ai-christianson wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't there a link between high intelligence and depression as well?

is being good at chess a proof of human intelligence?

I think Hikaru’s fans made him take an IQ or intelligence test a couple of years ago and it showed he wasn’t exactly a mastermind. He said at the time something along the lines that being good at chess shows you are intelligent only in that one domain of chess-type thinking, not general intelligence.

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Post by yuvadam »

j4coh wrote: post #99
somenameforme wrote: post #95

There's huge pink elephant that I think many aren't aware of here. A former chess world champion, Vladimir Kramnik, has turned into a sort of self satire seeking out cheaters in online chess. Basically everybody is cheating according to him, he even implied Hikaru Nakamura, the 2nd strongest player in the world, could be cheating. Eventually his sights fell on Danya. At first I thought they were both kind of playing…

We don’t even know yet how he died, isn’t it a bit early to pin it on someone?

If you've been following the drama, his involvement is obvious at this point.

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Post by j4coh »

qwertox wrote: post #106
somenameforme wrote: post #95

There's huge pink elephant that I think many aren't aware of here. A former chess world champion, Vladimir Kramnik, has turned into a sort of self satire seeking out cheaters in online chess. Basically everybody is cheating according to him, he even implied Hikaru Nakamura, the 2nd strongest player in the world, could be cheating. Eventually his sights fell on Danya. At first I thought they were both kind of playing…

So Kramnik likes to engage in mobbing? What does the community say about this?

It’s internet drama, surely counter (and counter-counter)-mobs are already forming. The fans do this regardless of the wishes of the influencer.

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Post by [deleted] »

bluGill wrote: post #109
toinewx wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is being good at chess a proof of human intelligence?

Maybe, exactly what are you asking? What even is intelligence - that is a question I've never seen formally answered (and even if someone does, their definition may not match your intuitive feel for what it means and thus it is useless outside of the exact paper they defined it in) Formal definitions aside, it isn't possible for "stupid" people to be good at chess. There also is no other animal or known alien that is…

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Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Post by rayiner »

Noaidi wrote: post #107
toinewx wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is being good at chess a proof of human intelligence?

Intelligence has been defined in many ways: the capacity for abstraction, logic, understanding, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, reasoning, planning, creativity, critical thinking, and problem-solving. It can be described as the ability to perceive or infer information and to retain it as knowledge to be applied to adaptive behaviors within an environment or context. (from Wikipedia) Intelligence is mul…

Intelligence presents in different way, but they’re all correlated with each other. The idea that people can be intelligent in different things is mostly a myth: https://researched.org.uk/2018/09/26/myth-busting-gardners-m...

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Post by Noaidi »

yapyap wrote: post #84

holy shit. there’s an interesting (but not necessarily causual in either direction) link between chess and depression https://www.chess.com/blog/AstroTheoretical_Physics/chess-pl... either how, RIP

No no no no there is no link. This a fantasy created by the romantics.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9879926/

Playing competitive chess may trigger depression because of the constant comparison of people better than you.

Re: Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died

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Post by [deleted] »

qwertox wrote: post #106
somenameforme wrote: post #95

There's huge pink elephant that I think many aren't aware of here. A former chess world champion, Vladimir Kramnik, has turned into a sort of self satire seeking out cheaters in online chess. Basically everybody is cheating according to him, he even implied Hikaru Nakamura, the 2nd strongest player in the world, could be cheating. Eventually his sights fell on Danya. At first I thought they were both kind of playing…

So Kramnik likes to engage in mobbing? What does the community say about this?

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